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Philogene has been injured that's why he hasn't been involved for Cardiff, I watched a few of their games at the start of the season and he was doing well, he's back on the bench today.

 

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Summary from Thursday night

Bertrand Traore (Istanbul Basaksehir) 1st/4 [Europa Conference - Group A]
Away at RFS (0-0) - Played 90 minutes. 87 touches, 95% pass accuracy, 1 shot on target, 1 shot off target, 2 shots blocked, 1 big chance missed, 1 key pass. Booked. SofaScore.com rating of 7.1.

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Not sure what's going on with KKH, but I think he needs to pull his finger out to be honest.

If he wants to make it as a Premier League player, he needs to win his place back in that Huddersfield side.

A story from local press hinted he, alongside a few others, was dropped for not training well enough.

Better players than Kaine have faltered and fallen out of the game from this sort of position. Don't be one of those.

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5 hours ago, Tomaszk said:

Not sure what's going on with KKH, but I think he needs to pull his finger out to be honest.

If he wants to make it as a Premier League player, he needs to win his place back in that Huddersfield side.

A story from local press hinted he, alongside a few others, was dropped for not training well enough.

Better players than Kaine have faltered and fallen out of the game from this sort of position. Don't be one of those.

Nah it's what always happens when a team is doing terrible they focus on senior players and permanent players to try get out of it. We saw it at Ipswich. We just need to pull him from the club and send him elsewhere. It's not down to him it's the club and new head coach

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Huddersfield's new manager was quoted this Friday as saying everyone is training really well and namechecked Kesler-Hayden.

I presumed he must have had an injury, but seen a few Huddersfield fans suggesting that he hasn't been playing well when he's had a chance.

But I watched them at the start of the season before he joined, they were really poor, it was obvious they were going to struggle after losing their manager and better players.

Put a young player into such a team and it's going to be hard for them to stand out, so if this move doesn't work out I'm not reading too much into it.

Barry is in a similar situation at MK Dons, they too were very good last season but lost their better players in the summer as well as the manager, so struggling this season.

If you've got loan players in a team that's doing well I think that helps a great deal, no coincident that Azaz, Ramsey, and Iroegbunam all getting good reviews, and last season Kesler-Hayden, Barry, Azaz again the same when they were playing in teams challening for promotion, Philogene and Archer did well in midtable teams as well, I think it's just when you send young players to teams that are really struggling that you in turn see them struggle too.

Another example of the above is that last Aaron Ramsey was pretty average at Cheltenham, which is fine for a youngster on their first loan, but he's doing much better this season in the division above and getting more game time in a team that has much better players than Cheltenham.

 

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41 minutes ago, CVByrne said:

Nah it's what always happens when a team is doing terrible they focus on senior players and permanent players to try get out of it. We saw it at Ipswich. We just need to pull him from the club and send him elsewhere. It's not down to him it's the club and new head coach

They are starting a 23 year old winger ahead of him

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Summary from Monday night - I'm sure this is high on everyone's list of priorities right now

Bertrand Traore (Istanbul Basaksehir) 7th/19 [Super Lig]
Home to Sivasspor (0-2) - Played 90 minutes. 55 touches, 80.6% pass accuracy, 3 shots, 1 key pass. Booked. WhoScored.com rating of 5.72.

Basaksehir blow a chance to go top, losing to a side in the relegation zone. However they are still only 1 point off top with a game in hand.

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Summary from Tuesday night

Louie Barry (Milton Keynes Dons) 22nd/24 [League One]
Home to Bristol Rovers (0-1) - Came on in the 79th minute. 6 touches, 100% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.37. 

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Summary from midweek

Bertrand Traore (Istanbul Basaksehir) 1st/4 [Europa Conference - Group A]
Home to RFS (3-0) - Came on in the 62nd minute. 32 touches, 86% pass accuracy, 1 shot on target, 1 key pass. SofaScore.com rating of 7.3.

Wesley (Levante UD) 11th/22 [Segunda Division]
Away at Miranda (0-1) - Substituted in the 85th minute. 30 touches, 65% pass accuracy, 1 shot on target. SofaScore.com rating of 6.8.

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Barry, Azaz, Wright, and Brad Young Starting, Philogene, Sinisalo, and Chrisene on the bench, Chukwuemeka and Lindley not involved.

Good to see Barry get a start, he's getting a decent amount of game time off the bench, but would be nice to see him finally get a goal, MK Dons struggling though and will be tough for them today against Plymouth.

Sinisalo loan not going great, it's not so bad being on the bench for outfied players as always a chance they can be subbed on and get some involvement, not so much with goalkeepers unless there's an injury.

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15 hours ago, useless said:

Barry, Azaz, Wright, and Brad Young Starting, Philogene, Sinisalo, and Chrisene on the bench, Chukwuemeka and Lindley not involved.

Good to see Barry get a start, he's getting a decent amount of game time off the bench, but would be nice to see him finally get a goal, MK Dons struggling though and will be tough for them today against Plymouth.

Sinisalo loan not going great, it's not so bad being on the bench for outfied players as always a chance they can be subbed on and get some involvement, not so much with goalkeepers unless there's an injury.

Just taken a closer look and Philogene, Kesler , Caleb , lindley and Sinisalo were all signed on loan by managers that have now been sacked.  Shows how difficult the loan game can be. A new manager comes in , nornally because they are doing poorly, and then doesnt pick any youngsters as they need to try and pick up results instantly. 

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Summary from the weekend - Finn Azaz for player/manager

Finn Azaz (Plymouth Argyle) 1st/24 [League One]
Away at MK Dons (1-4) - Substituted in the 86th minute. 54 touches, 81.8% pass accuracy, 2 shots on target, 5 key passes. Scored twice & an assist. WhoScored.com rating of 8.78. MOTM

Louie Barry (Milton Keynes Dons) 22nd/24 [League One]
Home to Plymouth (1-4) - Substituted in the 66th minute. 32 touches, 86.4% pass accuracy, 3 key passes. Assist. WhoScored.com rating of 6.84. (see above for highlight)

Ben Chrisene (Kilmarnock) 10th/12 [Scottish Premiership]
Away at St. Mirren (0-0) - Came on in the 61st minute. 10 touches, 71.4% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.16.

Keinan Davis (Watford) 10th/24 [Championship]
Home to Norwich (2-1) - Substituted in the 86th minute. 35 touches, 65% pass accuracy, 4 shots, 3 shots on target. Scored. WhoScored.com rating of 7.40.

Kortney Hause (Watford) 10th/24 [Championship]a
Home to Norwich (2-1) - Not in the squad.

Tim Iroegbunam (QPR) 4th/24 [Championship]
Away at Luton (3-1) - Played 90 minutes. 73 touches, 79.6% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.65.

Kaine Kesler-Hayden (Huddersfield) 23rd/24 [Championship]
Away at Rotherham (2-1) - Not in the squad.

Hayden Lindley (Newport) 19th/24 [League Two]
Away at Crawley (2-1) - Not in the squad.

Jaden Philogene-Bidace (Cardiff City) 18th/24 [Championship]
Home to Burnley (1-1) - Came on in the 80th minute. 5 touches, 66.7% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.20.

Aaron Ramsey (Norwich City) 3rd/24 [Championship]
Away at Watford (2-1) - Came on in the 90th minute. 4 touches, 50% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 5.99.

Viljami Sinisalo (Burton Albion) 23rd/24 [League One]
Home to Morecambe (1-1) - Unused substitute.

Bertrand Traore (Istanbul Basaksehir) 3rd/19 [Super Lig]
Home to Istanbulspor (2-0) - Played 90 minutes. 48 touches, 82.8% pass accuracy, 3 shots, 1 shot on target. WhoScored.com rating of 6.86.

Wesley (Levante UD) 9th/22 [Segunda Division]
Home to Leganes (2-1) - Unused substitute.

Tyreik Wright (Bradford) 5th/24 [League Two]
Away at Salford (0-1) - Played 90 minutes. 41 touches, 75.9% pass accuracy. 1 shot on target, 1 key pass. WhoScored.com rating of 6.79.

Brad Young (Ayr United) 3rd/10 [Scottish Championship]
Away at Dundee FC (2-1) - Substituted in the 57th minute.

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