VillaChris Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: Barry was a 6 more than an 8 though Petrov was the deeper one in the combination. Barry on the ball with likes of Coutinho and Buendia ahead would be breathtaking. Young's form dipped after he left as we couldn't quite get the ball as quickly to him out wide as Barry could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 McGrath, Barry, Benteke. It actually hurts my heart to see Benteke as this run of the mill PL striker who is a bit part player for Crystal Palace, he was a beast for us. It’s a shame we were so badly run back then and couldn’t afford to build a top class team around him. He should be our all time PL top goal scorer rather than that fat p**** on TalkSPORT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Petrov was the deeper one in the combination. Barry on the ball with likes of Coutinho and Buendia ahead would be breathtaking. Young's form dipped after he left as we couldn't quite get the ball as quickly to him out wide as Barry could. But that was because O'Neill was a clown. Barry was never an 8 not at England, City or when Liverpool tried to buy him. Reo Coker was more of an 8 than Barry. Barry engine wasn't the greatest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Of the players I saw? Platt McGrath Yorke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Ian Taylor Luc Nilis Dion Dublin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 McGrath, sir Brian, then a toss up between Sid and Morty. In a day or so I'll give 3 different answers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 12 hours ago, TRO said: The European cup winners was a team......and a bloody good one. In my humble opinion, the 3 players I chose, individually could have featured in that side......maybe not all at once, because that may have destabilised the team.....but each one could have featured in that great team. Its all about balance and TEAM coordination, not just individuals......sure the game is about individuals, but they have to blend in to a team...is my point. We won the European cup, but not many featured strongly in the England team........work that one out. There was a lot of competition for places and like at the present, the England manager was a "yes" man, that had his favourites and the Villa players were not among those. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, VillaChris said: Petrov was the deeper one in the combination. Barry on the ball with likes of Coutinho and Buendia ahead would be breathtaking. Young's form dipped after he left as we couldn't quite get the ball as quickly to him out wide as Barry could. Good combination. Thats what those creative players need, behind them. Lets hope Kamara, is one of them. Edited June 27, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, John said: There was a lot of competition for places and like at the present, the England manager was a "yes" man, that had his favourites and the Villa players were not among those. I also think John, our players played in a durable team, workman like and hard to beat, but not eye catching, like Ipswich was.....sure we had creative players, but by and large it was a staunch team....no frills, but effective. when they pick England teams, ( generally speaking)they all want twinkle toes types in there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, John said: There was a lot of competition for places and like at the present, the England manager was a "yes" man, that had his favourites and the Villa players were not among those. Ahhh yes, Southgate's real father! Edited June 27, 2022 by nick76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 10 hours ago, Woody1000 said: McGrath, Barry, Benteke. It actually hurts my heart to see Benteke as this run of the mill PL striker who is a bit part player for Crystal Palace, he was a beast for us. It’s a shame we were so badly run back then and couldn’t afford to build a top class team around him. He should be our all time PL top goal scorer rather than that fat p**** on TalkSPORT. Yes, it was a pity that Randy chose to stop funding proper transfers back then, but Benteke was looking to leave us from the end of his first season at Villa Park and considered us a stepping stone to Spurs or Liverpool. He was top notch when he was with us and was good enough to make the Belgium team, since leaving us he has been proof that the grass is not always greener elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, TRO said: I also think John, our players played in a durable team, workman like and hard to beat, but not eye catching, like Ipswich was.....sure we had creative players, but by and large it was a staunch team....no frills, but effective. when they pick England teams, ( generally speaking)they all want twinkle toes types in there. Agreed, but it's still astounding that players like Dennis Mortimer and Gary Shaw (whose toes did twinkle) were never capped, and Tony Morley only got 6 caps. and Gordon Cowans 8 (when he was playing for us). Edited June 27, 2022 by John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, John said: Yes, it was a pity that Randy chose to stop funding proper transfers back then, but Benteke was looking to leave us from the end of his first season at Villa Park and considered us a stepping stone to Spurs or Liverpool. He was top notch when he was with us and was good enough to make the Belgium team, since leaving us he has been proof that the grass is not always greener elsewhere. He was found out at Liverpool....Klopp was critical of his movement......Top strikers need to move, Peter Withe recently said (when asked what his secret was) "I took up room, where the centre half wasn't" Andy Weimann did the running for Benteke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, John said: Agreed, but it's still astounding that players like Dennis Mortimer and Gary Shaw (whose toes did twinkle) were never capped, and Tony Morley only got 6 caps. and Gordon Cowans 8 (when he was playing for us). when you look at the squad Greenwood chose Mills and Anderson over Swain; took Corrigan over Rimmer; Rix over Sid; an injured Brooking over Mortimer (brooking a good player without doubt but we were also taking an injured keegan); and Coppell over Morley. A side that was the best in europe was deemed good enough to only supply 1 player at that World Cup for England. ****. I hate Greenwood almost as much as Italy for knowking out that Brazil side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, nick76 said: Ahhh yes, Southgate's real father! Nah!!! The nose is a dead give away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, peterw said: when you look at the squad Greenwood chose Mills and Anderson over Swain; took Corrigan over Rimmer; Rix over Sid; an injured Brooking over Mortimer (brooking a good player without doubt but we were also taking an injured keegan); and Coppell over Morley. A side that was the best in europe was deemed good enough to only supply 1 player at that World Cup for England. ****. I hate Greenwood almost as much as Italy for knowking out that Brazil side. & remember the FA turned these two down to give him the job: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 If you didn't choose Frank Barson Billy Walker Pongo Waring then you are wrong. (Am I doing this right?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, rjw63 said: If you didn't choose Frank Barson Billy Walker Pongo Waring then you are wrong. (Am I doing this right?) I think they all played over fifty years ago, so would have just missed out, as did Gerry Hitchens, Peter McParland and Eric Houghton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, John said: I think they all played over fifty years ago, so would have just missed out, as did Gerry Hitchens, Peter McParland and Eric Houghton. WHAT?? A time limit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted June 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2022 18 hours ago, The_Rev said: Of the players I saw? Platt McGrath Yorke I'd maybe swap Cowans for Platt, but otherwise yes for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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