tinker Posted August 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 18, 2022 Wasn't a great season for me, although the desert 'piss drinking' episode was probably the best episode of the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2022 On 18/08/2022 at 08:17, tinker said: Wasn't a great season for me, although the desert 'piss drinking' episode was probably the best episode of the whole thing. That episode was in Season 5. Just watched the finale. Similar thoughts to others, I think it ended perfectly. And by that, while I’d have loved to have seen him get away with it (and I really thought he had got away with it), it was right that he’d face serious jail time, but making the best of the situation on his terms. Helping out Kim, taking the credit for much of it, essentially making it his story as he’s the only around to tell it. Really enjoyed seeing him (sort of) work alongside Bill on the same team - Bill trying and failing to be excused in court was humorous. And the scene on the prison bus was a nice little moment of triumph. Will miss this world they’ve created in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. They haven’t ruled out returning one day to tell more stories in it, but I think they’re probably right to let these two companion series sit as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: That episode was in Season 5. Just watched the finale. Similar thoughts to others, I think it ended perfectly. And by that, while I’d have loved to have seen him get away with it (and I really thought he had got away with it), it was right that he’d face serious jail time, but making the best of the situation on his terms. Helping out Kim, taking the credit for much of it, essentially making it his story as he’s the only around to tell it. Really enjoyed seeing him (sort of) work alongside Bill on the same team - Bill trying and failing to be excused in court was humorous. And the scene on the prison bus was a nice little moment of triumph. Will miss this world they’ve created in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. They haven’t ruled out returning one day to tell more stories in it, but I think they’re probably right to let these two companion series sit as they are. Oh dear, binged watched the whole lot over the last month and it all became a bit blurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Rewatching the whole thing again. Even better on 2nd viewing as I can binge it all rather than wait years in between seasons. Always pick up bits you miss first time round too. Already on S4. Recommended to all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 1, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 20/08/2022 at 00:27, Mark Albrighton said: Really enjoyed seeing him (sort of) work alongside Bill on the same team I don't think they were ever on the same team. Saul brought him in just to humiliate him and get his name attached to what turned out to be a spectacular failure for a lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted September 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I don't think they were ever on the same team. Saul brought him in just to humiliate him and get his name attached to what turned out to be a spectacular failure for a lawyer. Hmmm not sure on that. He only decided to throw it all away after being informed of Kim’s confession and then Bill saying what she might be facing, while on board that plane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 My question is, has he come clean at the end of the series? Owned up to his mistakes and became a full Jimmy again? Or did the Saul pride not allow him to be anything but the main actor behind Walters "success"? Maybe both? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 1, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Mark Albrighton said: Hmmm not sure on that. He only decided to throw it all away after being informed of Kim’s confession and then Bill saying what she might be facing, while on board that plane. I took it that it was all a plan from the moment he kicked off those negotiations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted September 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I took it that it was all a plan from the moment he kicked off those negotiations But when he tries to negotiate further to sweeten the deal with details of Howard’s death, he’s thrown by them revealing Kim has already given a statement. He wasn’t aware of that, and that revelation gives him a different outlook. You can see it on his face, he’s been running circles around the authorities bringing the sentence down, but at that moment he’s had the rug pulled from beneath him. I think he was trying to get away with as easy a sentence as possible, before that revelation. Kim’s prepared to face whatever consequences are coming her way, he decides he should do likewise. Go out on his own terms. 3 hours ago, Mic09 said: My question is, has he come clean at the end of the series? Owned up to his mistakes and became a full Jimmy again? Or did the Saul pride not allow him to be anything but the main actor behind Walters "success"? Maybe both? The net result is both, but I think it was due to being redeemed, both in his own mind and in Kim’s. He can’t be with her, but she’s back on his side. Being a bit of a criminal folk hero will have some benefits, but when the prisoners were chanting “Better Call Saul”, he seemed bemused rather than proud or anything. It’s just what he’s known for now. What I wanted to know, it’s more of a hypothetical, when Nacho (remember Nacho?) is about to be executed and he manages to get out, pulls a gun to the cartel boss’ head. Mike, far away with his sniper gun says “Do it!”. Obviously Mike has a respect for Nacho and he doesn’t care much for Hector and his pals. But IF Nacho had killed the cartel boss, what was Mike going to do? Kill Hector and the twins, ok. But then Gus wouldn’t have been happy at the prospect of having to explain that away to Eladio. So does he then have to go… Like I say, it’s a hypothetical so it doesn’t really matter. Just wondering what Mike was prepared to do at that point. Edited September 1, 2022 by Mark Albrighton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Mark Albrighton said: But when he tries to negotiate further to sweeten the deal with details of Howard’s death, he’s thrown by them revealing Kim has already given a statement. He wasn’t aware of that, and that revelation gives him a different outlook. You can see it on his face, he’s been running circles around the authorities bringing the sentence down, but at that moment he’s had the right pulled from beneath him. I think he was trying to get away with as easy a sentence as possible, before that revelation. Yeah, this was my take too. I thought that was the pivotal moment that brought Jimmy back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted October 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2022 Absolutely love this. Wearing a suit, same hairstyle, plays a scam and is even called Jim. In my head this is now canon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Finally got around to finishing it, much better than Breaking Bad for me though still just missing out on being an elite show. I think being a prequel meant some things were predictable (Nacho and Lalo dying and characters from Breaking Bad in tough situations already knowing the outcome) Thought the ending was good and not really what I was expecting as the Nebraska thing just didnt look it would really have time for a sideplot I am still 100 percent sure Howard Hamlin is based on Purslow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted October 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2022 At last I can read this thread, The temptation to jump on before was immense, glad I didn’t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Mike is the personfication of "old - school". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 You have to hand it to the twins, they never rush, no matter the circumstances. I suppose that was their downfall eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 It was so heartbreaking the relationship between Nacho and his father. In the end it was his love for his father that contributed to his demise. Michael Mando acted his chops off in this show. Vastly underrated, imo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Hector, just couldn't resist firing a few shots into poor Nacho's corpse. The way the twins carried him over to the body, morbidly hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 You just knew Howard was getting it once that silencer was attached. I kind of felt for the guy after the way Jimmy and Kim played him, and then, to top it off, "see ya". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 That part where Kim gets dragged through Gus's front door. Had me in stitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) Gus Fring the absolute control freak. He'd sniff a fart in a sewer. Edited November 26, 2022 by sheepyvillian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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