Mark Albrighton Posted June 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Cheers, watached this because of this thread. Really good. Is it acknowledged that Groundhog Day borrowed from this? Because it's basically an identical concept Short answer, no. Long answer, also no, but they tried. I believe the writer of the original story and the director of the short film initiated some legal action but it didn’t get anywhere. There was another story called “Replay” published in the 80’s where a man keeps living the same 25 years over and over. I think there was some claim that Groundhog Day borrowed from that, but again it came to nothing. Before 12:01 was published in early 70’s, there was an episode of The Twilight Zone in 1961 called Shadowplay which had a character having the same dream again and again, trying to break the pattern which had similar vibes to all these stories. And way before that, there was something called The Defence of Duffer’s Drift in 1904 which has some soldier in charge of a battle in the Boer War, who dreams the battle over and over again, losing each time, but learns what not to do. Basically I think there have been too many similar ideas to definitively state the idea belonged to one author. For the record, Danny Rubin (writer of Groundhog Day) has said his jumping off point was something called Christmas Every Day which was published in 1892. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Short answer, no. Long answer, also no, but they tried. I believe the writer of the original story and the director of the short film initiated some legal action but it didn’t get anywhere. There was another story called “Replay” published in the 80’s where a man keeps living the same 25 years over and over. I think there was some claim that Groundhog Day borrowed from that, but again it came to nothing. Before 12:01 was published in early 70’s, there was an episode of The Twilight Zone in 1961 called Shadowplay which had a character having the same dream again and again, trying to break the pattern which had similar vibes to all these stories. And way before that, there was something called The Defence of Duffer’s Drift in 1904 which has some soldier in charge of a battle in the Boer War, who dreams the battle over and over again, losing each time, but learns what not to do. Basically I think there have been too many similar ideas to definitively state the idea belonged to one author. For the record, Danny Rubin (writer of Groundhog Day) has said his jumping off point was something called Christmas Every Day which was published in 1892. I did some googling and looks like they made a feature length version of 12:01 too, and after the release of that the author of the original short story claimed Groundhog Day had plagiarised them and he and Jonathan Heap tried to sue them but with no success 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted June 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: I did some googling and looks like they made a feature length version of 12:01 too, and after the release of that the author of the original short story claimed Groundhog Day had plagiarised them and he and Jonathan Heap tried to sue them but with no success Yep as it happens I originally watched the full feature version of 12:01 a good number of years before seeing the original short film. It’s not great, in all honesty. But it’s there if you wanted to see it for comparative reasons. Watchable nonsense. I think you can find it on YouTube. Much more “comedic” in tone (supposedly). It has Martin Landau and Jeremy Piven in supporting roles and the bloke from Weekend at Bernie’s and the woman from City Slickers and Supergirl in the lead roles. Edited June 13, 2022 by Mark Albrighton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Really good short film, it has subtitles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 14, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: Really good short film, it has subtitles Ah yes, I know from the name what this is. I remember seeing it in the cinema. It came on as a little freebie before the main film. Quite a bittersweet point made about the Irish language but nicely done, and a father Ted star in it to boot Arse! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted June 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 14, 2022 If you’ve seen Taika Waititi’s film Boy, this should feel fairly familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 I've always liked this one about young boy who finds a sentient, mute, red balloon, I especially love the end scenes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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