PaulC Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: EDIT: Actually, leaving Sancho out just as he hits form is pretty weird now I think about it. Hes hardly set the world alight though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, PaulC said: Hes hardly set the world alight though He hasn't been out of this world, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Can’t argue with that squad too much. If I’m honest, I don’t think Ramsey is quite there yet, so not bothered if he knocks about the u21s for a bit longer. If he ups his form a notch and does well for the u21s I think he’ll get a call up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 7 hours ago, villa4europe said: no rashford - good having a look at gallagher and guehi - its the right break to do it - no tomori? dont know why, not been watching him tammy deserves his chance again guehi and white ahead of konsa...not seen guehi play if im honest so i dont know, do think konsa has had a dip in form at the wrong time overall i think thats pretty much the best we have, cant think of any shockers in there, maybe that luke shaw hasnt been starting for utd in the last month (injured?) and he's the only left back Bowen would've been a shoe in if fit you'd think but I agree apart from that it's as you'd expect. He was never going to drop Maguire. Would like to see Rice and Bellingham get a proper run now as double pivot infront of the back 4 as that surely has to be starting combo at world cup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, WallisFrizz said: Can’t argue with that squad too much. If I’m honest, I don’t think Ramsey is quite there yet, so not bothered if he knocks about the u21s for a bit longer. If he ups his form a notch and does well for the u21s I think he’ll get a call up. Plenty of pointless nations league games in June to have a look at him if he has strong end to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 9 hours ago, rodders0223 said: I'm all for loyalty in football and its not something I've often criticised Southgate for...just everything else. But how on earth is Maguire in that squad. He's up there with worst performing players in the league right now. The guy should be banned from playing football he is so bad. No way he should be picking up international caps even if he is an elite ball playing centre back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 hours ago, VillaChris said: Bowen would've been a shoe in if fit you'd think but I agree apart from that it's as you'd expect. He was never going to drop Maguire. Would like to see Rice and Bellingham get a proper run now as double pivot infront of the back 4 as that surely has to be starting combo at world cup. Isnt that the problem. He should drop Maguire and its a friendly so even less pressure Its why England will never win a tournament this shitty favouritism approach. Hardly Beckham, Rooney etc its the modern day Titus Bramble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Zatman said: Isnt that the problem. He should drop Maguire and its a friendly so even less pressure Its why England will never win a tournament this shitty favouritism approach. Hardly Beckham, Rooney etc its the modern day Titus Bramble As Southgate said yesterday Maguire was outstanding for him at euros. Until he has a poor tournament he'll have an automatic place in the team. Also took an excellent penalty in the final so that's worth noting if England play another shoot out as you wouldn't fancy likes of Sancho or Saka to take one in a hurry if either were on the pitch. Edited March 18, 2022 by VillaChris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Ohhh the double standards from Southgate are something aren’t they! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 17 hours ago, Davkaus said: He hasn't been out of this world, but... That kind of thing is the opposite of what we were saying 2 years ago Madness how it all works (and always has done) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Friendlies are the perfect time to try new players and tactics but it’s classic England. Waistcoat is too much of a yes man to dare drop certain players. They have sponsors and others to appease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Do you want to be 'trying new players' really when there's 9 or 10 months until a World Cup and you aren't going to have much of a training camp before the tournament? Bottom line is the England hierarchy are of the opinion that you want to try to get the 'group' as comfortable with each other and in tune with each other as possible, and handing out starting roles to guys who you strongly suspect won't make the final squad isn't going to help with that, so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Do you want to be 'trying new players' really when there's 9 or 10 months until a World Cup and you aren't going to have much of a training camp before the tournament? Bottom line is the England hierarchy are of the opinion that you want to try to get the 'group' as comfortable with each other and in tune with each other as possible, and handing out starting roles to guys who you strongly suspect won't make the final squad isn't going to help with that, so. When do you try them then? Friendlies are pretty much finished so these are the rare friendlies that are available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Zatman said: When do you try them then? Friendlies are pretty much finished so these are the rare friendlies that are available After the tournament People can moan about it if they want, but this happens so much it's clearly The Plan: build a tight-knit group that trust each other, know the systems and the manager's expectations, and don't pick on form unless it's an extreme exception. And it's hard to look at the past few years and not think it's worked pretty well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 He's trying 2 new faces, tried tomori last squad, trying to get Tammy back as striker number 2 too Its about right imo, it's not so much Henderson has 50+ caps so he doesn't need 2 more it's Henderson has played with Bellingham maybe 3 times before and he needs to see that combo in training The number of players he's looking at doesn't bother me if I'm honest, I do think this squad for all its faults (as I think Keyblade said in his thread mings in the best CB in this squad) it's not screaming at me that he's **** up anywhere and someone else should be there, say what you like about maguires form or stones not playing but he was never dropping them for say konsa, never 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Can't drop Jack now cuz it was him who talked him into the move. 'Jack lad you need that European football experience if you wanna get in my team'. I have 100% confidence this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 19, 2022 On 17/03/2022 at 18:48, Davkaus said: He hasn't been out of this world, but... Grealish’s attacking stats are better than Sancho’s. His output isn’t, but that’s not how people pick teams/squads. Or at least it shouldn’t be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 46 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Grealish’s attacking stats are better than Sancho’s. His output isn’t, but that’s not how people pick teams/squads. Or at least it shouldn’t be This. If football was as easy as pick the player with the most goals and/or assists in attacking positions and clean sheets in defence then we could have robots picking teams. Grealish had pretty average assists and goals stats for us for a lot of his time here. It didn’t stop him being head and shoulders above everybody else we had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 That's a long winded way of saying grealish has his own tshirt in the England shop and sancho doesn't Sancho is another who struggled to get a sniff during the euros suggesting that there's something about him Southgate doesn't like, that's the kind of change that should happen between these 2 tournaments, take those who were always unused subs and replace them, DCL for example should never make another Southgate squad but he's doing that himself anyway, sancho I think started 1 and made 2 sub appearances in the euros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 The farce that it is... Tammy has gone and replaced by Watkins, TAA has gone and been replaced by Kyle walker Peters, James gone and replaced by Mitchell, ramsdale gone and replaced by Johnstone who also pulled out and replaced by forster, saka pulled out and replaced by Smith rowe Complete waste of time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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