Demitri_C Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Watkins out. Has been utterly poor for most of the season. Time to give ings a run in the team Hopefully traore will make the bench too. Dont think bailey is ready yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Watkins out. Has been utterly poor for most of the season. Time to give ings a run in the team Hopefully traore will make the bench too. Dont think bailey is ready yet I used to love Watkins, but it seems to me that he's been in a sulk since Ings joined. I think Ings should start this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Looks 20 minutes ago, bielesibub said: I used to love Watkins, but it seems to me that he's been in a sulk since Ings joined. I think Ings should start this game. Looks like a one season wonder to me. Been found out this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted February 11, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2022 Some good news: Lawro has this down as a draw so we’ll most likely win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Season over if we lose this. Huge concerns if we offer up another smelly performance. Up the villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Season over if we lose this. Huge concerns if we offer up another smelly performance. Up the villa. I don’t think we’ve got a cat in hells chance of getting Europe. The Brentford loss ended that. The main aim for this season is a top half finish which is still very achievable and making us look like an attractive proposition to future signings. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted February 11, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Season over if we lose this. Huge concerns if we offer up another smelly performance. Up the villa. Tis already over tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Not feeling confident we get something from this game. Which one should be playing a team on 17th place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted February 11, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2022 I’m interested to see what the response is like from the team. Watched Newcastle the other day, thought Everton were poor, especially going forward. Digne will need to keep Trippier in his pocket as a lot of their attack came through him. We really should be beating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 we'll win this. no bother. I assume Targett cant play in this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 I think there are a few decisions to be made with the starting line up. A few really poor performances mid week. I’d like to see this starting line up: Martinez Cash Chambers Mings Digne McGinn Sanson Ramsey Buendia Couthino Ings For me with Chambers in for Konsa you can’t drop Mings too. Luiz is too lightweight in midfield. I’m hoping Sanson might add a bit more bite. And up front I think Ings is a better poacher type striker and will work better making runs that Couthino and Buendia can pick out. Hopefully Bailey makes the bench along with Traore back from AFCON. Those two and Watkins give us real scope to change the game going forward if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BleedClaretAndBlue Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 When you factor in just how poor Newcastle have been, what does it say about us that our last win there was in 2005 when they had 8 men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted February 11, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2022 They have a goal in them for sure, but so do we. Can see us edging this 1-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 I think we lose this. I think we bottle it again (take the lead then..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Season over if we lose this. Huge concerns if we offer up another smelly performance. Up the villa. Its already over. We are not gettin europe, out of the cups and not going down. Finishing top 10 is the goal this year. Next season we need to be aiming higher than this. The amount we have spent we need to be doing better than linquering between 10th and 12th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 11, 2022 Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2022 I think we can win this - I think Newcastle's style suits us a bit more than Leeds' does - I'm not sure we will win it, but I think we can. Watkins is a conundrum - his style suits us a lot more than Ings' does - we need that bustle and workrate, his ability to occupy a defence - but he's short of confidence and form and things haven't quite been going for him - if he'd managed to stretch an extra few inches for a couple of the those crosses against Leeds and put one away then I think it would have done him the world of good. In theory, this is exactly what Ings is for - a second quality striker available from the bench so that they're constantly pushing each other and we've always got a goal threat - but Ing's own form hasn't been great either. I think for this one I'd stick with Watkins - but it's close. At the back, Chambers makes sense positionally, but I'm coming round to the idea of bringing in Hause to counter Wood - watching Newcastle's last game they only have two real dangers; St Max and Trippier's dead balls - against Leeds we were weak in dealing with crosses and corners and having an extra big head in there might prove to be really useful if they're whipping in balls to Wood, Lascelles, Joelinton and co. On performance I'd drop McGinn for Sanson - but the thing with McGinn is that he's always poor after a break, he needs football to maintain his fitness and energy - I'd play him for the U23's if we could - the more games he has, the better he is - so I'd keep him in, not because he's our best option for this game on form, but because his form will improve if we keep playing him and hopefully he'll be back to full meatball by our next one. Other than that, leave it as it is, work on how we want to defend at BH and see how we go. Oh, and in terms of aims for the season - I'd like to see if we can finish as top Midlands team for the first time in a long, long time, we're battling away with Leicester and while chasing down Wolves might seem a big ask with their seven point lead and sixteen games to go - we might still make it. I think that's a good first staging post for our ambitions, whether it be this season or next. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Win 2-0 at home draw 1-1 away seems to be the pattern against these in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I think we can win this - I think Newcastle's style suits us a bit more than Leeds' does - I'm not sure we will win it, but I think we can. Watkins is a conundrum - his style suits us a lot more than Ings' does - we need that bustle and workrate, his ability to occupy a defence - but he's short of confidence and form and things haven't quite been going for him - if he'd managed to stretch an extra few inches for a couple of the those crosses against Leeds and put one away then I think it would have done him the world of good. In theory, this is exactly what Ings is for - a second quality striker available from the bench so that they're constantly pushing each other and we've always got a goal threat - but Ing's own form hasn't been great either. I think for this one I'd stick with Watkins - but it's close. At the back, Chambers makes sense positionally, but I'm coming round to the idea of bringing in Hause to counter Wood - watching Newcastle's last game they only have two real dangers; St Max and Trippier's dead balls - against Leeds we were weak in dealing with crosses and corners and having an extra big head in there might prove to be really useful if they're whipping in balls to Wood, Lascelles, Joelinton and co. On performance I'd drop McGinn for Sanson - but the thing with McGinn is that he's always poor after a break, he needs football to maintain his fitness and energy - I'd play him for the U23's if we could - the more games he has, the better he is - so I'd keep him in, not because he's our best option for this game on form, but because his form will improve if we keep playing him and hopefully he'll be back to full meatball by our next one. Other than that, leave it as it is, work on how we want to defend at BH and see how we go. Makes a lot of sense. Interesting point about McGinn, hadn't made that link before but he was unusually quiet the other night. Doesn't seem to play well across the full 90 rather in bursts (same goes for a lot of others tbf). I'd agree with Hause over Chambers to try thwart the threat of Wood from Tripper and ASM's crosses. Watkins needs dropping, he's too often ineffective and isn't the threat he once was. He also seems to respond well to bring dropped so hopefully it'll give him some much needed fire in his belly. Ings is a pure finisher, may not possess the same press but he's got way more footballing intelligence than Watkins so should, in theory, work well with the vision of Buendia and Coutinho if both are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 11, 2022 Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, roonst83 said: Ings is a pure finisher, may not possess the same press but he's got way more footballing intelligence than Watkins so should, in theory, work well with the vision of Buendia and Coutinho if both are available. I'd agree, Ings is a pure finisher, but I'm not sure that's what we need - we need someone who keeps centrebacks away from Coutinho and Buendia, someone who rushes defenders, who harries them, someone who can be a bully - we look like we can score goals from all over the place and while it's nice to have a pure finisher it's not Watkins finishing that I'm worried about replacing, I think we have that in the side anyway. For example, I think Davis would be a better fit than Archer in our system although Archer is a better goalscorer. It's a tricky one - and in fairness, they're both good players so there's probably not a wrong answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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