Mr_Dogg Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, ender4 said: I’d be pretty shocked if Everton go down. If they beat Newcastle next game, they will be a decent gap between them and the relegation zone. IF. If Newcastle beat them they are one point behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 Last season, after 22 games the bottom three of Sheffield United, WBA and Fulham had 11, 12 and 15 points. They finished on 23, 26 and 28. Only Norwich have played 22 games and they’re on 16 points (plus you have to take into consideration their points return has increased since Smith’s appointment). It’ll be around 33-35 points for survival as it usually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Mark Albrighton said: Last season, after 22 games the bottom three of Sheffield United, WBA and Fulham had 11, 12 and 15 points. They finished on 23, 26 and 28. Only Norwich have played 22 games and they’re on 16 points (plus you have to take into consideration their points return has increased since Smith’s appointment). It’ll be around 33-35 points for survival as it usually is. What did 17th have out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, villa4europe said: What did 17th have out of interest? After 22 matches, Newcastle were 17th on 22 points. They ultimately finished 12th (somehow) on 45 points. Burnley finished 17th on 39 points, at the 22 game point, they were 16th on 23 points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 After the Jan transfer window I can’t see beyond Norwich, Watford and, at last, Burnley who offer the premier league nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 That's the thing... Its not about how many points 18th have its about how many 17th have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: That's the thing... Its not about how many points 18th have its about how many 17th have... That’s fair, I think the points difference between 17th and 20th will be significantly smaller than last season, let alone 17th to 18th. I think the bottom four (five with Everton) are more capable to pick up points than the bottom three last season, so the points might be distributed more evenly. There won’t be eleven points between 17th and 18th this season like there was last season, is my guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Still think it will be Newcastle, their signings haven’t done anything to change my mind, very meh signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I've been fancying Everton getting dragged in. Lampard, Dele and van de beek actually could make them worse imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: Last season, after 22 games the bottom three of Sheffield United, WBA and Fulham had 11, 12 and 15 points. They finished on 23, 26 and 28. Only Norwich have played 22 games and they’re on 16 points (plus you have to take into consideration their points return has increased since Smith’s appointment). It’ll be around 33-35 points for survival as it usually is. Had no idea the bottom three were that bad last season. Shows I was focusing on the other half of the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2022 21 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Had no idea the bottom three were that bad last season. Shows I was focusing on the other half of the table. I’ve said before on here I had genuine hopes of a Fulham - Newcastle final day decider which now seems farcical. I think the bottom four or five have a bit more about them this year. Or maybe because there’s potentially 5 teams in the mix (and Leeds haven’t been great), they’re sharing the points around more when they play each other. I wouldn’t be too surprised if this season’s 20th placed team reached around what 18th placed Fulham did last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: I’ve said before on here I had genuine hopes of a Fulham - Newcastle final day decider which now seems farcical. It would be very farcical 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Tommo_b said: Still think it will be Newcastle, their signings haven’t done anything to change my mind, very meh signings. It’s not about how bad they will be, but how bad their rivals. I think only Burnley have it in them to compete. Watford I think are done. Not sure about Smith effect but he needs a miracle. Add to that the fact that Newcastle weren’t easy to beat. Same as Burnley. Watford got their points through shock winnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 1, 2022 Moderator Share Posted February 1, 2022 It's going to be a fascinating watch - Burnley are the great unknown - with them having had most of a month off while they waited to sign a striker, it'll be a question of whether they can profit from the time off or whether their fixture pile up might catch up with them. If they start winning, there will be a panic. Newcastle have given themselves a decent chance and if Burnley start winning and Newcastle pick up points, it'll drag in Everton, Leeds and Brentford. I wouldn't rule Brentford out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted February 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: It's going to be a fascinating watch - Burnley are the great unknown - with them having had most of a month off while they waited to sign a striker, it'll be a question of whether they can profit from the time off or whether their fixture pile up might catch up with them. If they start winning, there will be a panic. Newcastle have given themselves a decent chance and if Burnley start winning and Newcastle pick up points, it'll drag in Everton, Leeds and Brentford. I wouldn't rule Brentford out yet. brentford are the ultimate shithouse though. worst side weve played this season yet they found a way to beat us. they'll pick up enough points everton won't go down. they weren't THAT bad against us. the points will come. leeds are the ones to watch IMO. watched their game vs newcastle thinking i'd see a great relegation 6 pointer but they were absolutely garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Let’s hope Everton get the Lampard bounce against Newcastle. Their intensity will cause them problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, Adman said: I've been fancying Everton getting dragged in. Lampard, Dele and van de beek actually could make them worse imo Agreed, No way is he going to get a tune out of both of them straight away. Hopefully they both never click and they lose big when they play. Edited February 1, 2022 by Amsterdam_Neil_D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, The_Steve said: Let’s hope Everton get the Lampard bounce against Newcastle. Their intensity will cause them problems. Both teams to have a new player sent off in the 1st half is my hope for this, would be a right laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 1, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 1, 2022 So what’s the worst result for Newcastle on Saturday, Watford or Burnley winning? I’m leaning towards Watford winning being worse for them as Burnley would still have two games in hand and perhaps they have a bit more about them than Watford to make it up. But I’m not completely sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Feck me Newcastle have a tough final four games. Would be absolutely hilarous if Burnley relegated them final day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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