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Liverpool Terror Attack


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5 hours ago, veloman said:

Surprised the latest terrorist atrocity in Liverpool hasn't received it's own thread (unless I've missed it). Any guesses who might be responsible; probably not the much-reviled 'far right' that we are constantly being warned about.

Is your "start new thread" button broken?

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47 minutes ago, bickster said:

Illegal in a PHV and they can only be manually set from the lock mechanism in the Focus unless there’s a button I've never encountered

 

So all cars with child locks can't be taxis? That can't be right.

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11 minutes ago, Risso said:

So all cars with child locks can't be taxis? That can't be right.

Illegal for them to be active in a PHV

Active child locks would also mean drivers having to get out and open the door for people at the end of every fare, even if the driver was breaking his licensing conditions he'd be mad to do that

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35 minutes ago, bickster said:

Illegal for them to be active in a PHV

Active child locks would also mean drivers having to get out and open the door for people at the end of every fare, even if the driver was breaking his licensing conditions he'd be mad to do that

I'm guessing that local taxi regulations and having to let the passenger out weren't high on his list of priorities! Isn't there just a button in most cars these days that activates the child locks in the back doors and windows?

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I think regardless of his motivations, you've got to say fair play to the driver for the speed he's got out and away from the car, and to the guy at the hospital in the hi-vis whose first thought was to run towards a car that just exploded - he's what you want more of.

I think that people will latch on to the hero cabbie story because it's a good narrative, people want heroes - he's the passengers that overpowered the hijackers. 

As for the terrorist attack, as an act of terrorism it's laughably bad, he's managed to kill himself and take out a Vauxhall Zafira whilst also getting his accomplices arrested. A cunningly planned and carefully executed venture to be sure.

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6 minutes ago, Risso said:

I'm guessing that local taxi regulations and having to let the passenger out weren't high on his list of priorities! Isn't there just a button in most cars these days that activates the child locks in the back doors and windows?

That isn’t a child lock and all it does is push the locking handles it, pull the handle out and the door opens

 

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37 minutes ago, bickster said:

That isn’t a child lock and all it does is push the locking handles it, pull the handle out and the door opens

 

No, that would be the central locking, what I'm talking about is s a button which when pressed, stops kids in the back opening the doors or windows.  I'm guessing that the taxi driver possibly had one, and pressed it, thus keeping the passenger in the back, but allowing the driver still to open his door.

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2 hours ago, Risso said:

No, that would be the central locking, what I'm talking about is s a button which when pressed, stops kids in the back opening the doors or windows.  I'm guessing that the taxi driver possibly had one, and pressed it, thus keeping the passenger in the back, but allowing the driver still to open his door.

He didn’t the car doesn’t have one. I’m not guessing

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12 hours ago, bobzy said:

It's also a growing thing.  I remember reading not so long ago that the far-right terror threat in the US is now greater than that of Islamist extremism.  Similarly the highly-publicised racism issue in this country is apparently fuelling the far-right.

I believe it always has been. 9-11 really padded the stats for the Islamists, but take that 1 day out of things then the right wingers are winning hands down in the body count numbers.

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I know these things are important to people, it's been confirmed he was a Muslim. Oh shit my bad. A Christian. Or maybe the religion isn't important and he was just a word removed, a useless word removed thankfully, but a word removed no less. 

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3 hours ago, maqroll said:

Terror threat in Britain raised to severe...makes you think that there's more chatter out there. It was only a month or so ago that that MP was murdered. Why the uptick now?

I assume the authorities knew something about this one before it happened too as they picked up the accomplices immediately. 
edit: looks like they’ve been freed without charge 

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6 minutes ago, Genie said:

I assume the authorities knew something about this one before it happened too as they picked up the accomplices immediately. 

Nope, not on any radar

Also you know the “accomplices” as you called them have now been released without charge

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11 hours ago, ml1dch said:

It's been a long time, but back in my "needing to get a late-night taxi" phase it was pretty much standard that the driver could press a button to lock you in, lest you decided you didn't want to pay.

 

 

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6 hours ago, maqroll said:

Terror threat in Britain raised to severe...makes you think that there's more chatter out there. It was only a month or so ago that that MP was murdered. Why the uptick now?

Strangely, I think it's to reassure the public at the moment

EDIT: and the need to be seen to be doing something

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5 hours ago, maqroll said:

But why the hospital?

It was reasonably close to the pick up location, nothing more, nothing less

It is a very odd choice, it may be the biggest specialist women's hospital in Europe but it's also not exactly a constant hive of activity especially at 11am on Sunday. I'd say the level of activity you see in the video is perfectly normal, it maybe a little busier in the week with scheduled appointments etc but at that time on a Sunday, it's quiet

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