pintpotvilla Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 21 hours ago, villalad21 said: How much PL football? They are being brought through at the right pace. It is ridiculous to suggest Smith did not help their progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 hours ago, barry'sboots said: Again agreed, but buying someone like Edouard (half the price, much lower wages, much younger and happy to come south and play as first reserve) would have made much more sense to me. Use the headroom on McKennie or El Ghazi replacement. I think, unfortunately, we haven't seen the best of Danny or Ollie.....That doesn't mean, they are not good players. I believe, we will, in time see these players playing much better for us....so many of our players are playing within themselves.....I expect to see that change, gradually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 14/11/2021 at 14:40, pintpotvilla said: Well that's not true is it? Carney, Jadon & Cameron say Hi!! We would have seen more of them, if we was winning games, Dean protected them and trying to gain points with the experienced players....which was understandable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 15, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2021 CC and JPB have also both had injuries this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 8 hours ago, sidcow said: Yikes. A new manager in place and barely 2 pages of discussion about how he might approach this? Guess we're as clueless as he will be given he'll only meet the full team 48 hours before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, TRO said: I think, unfortunately, we haven't seen the best of Danny or Ollie.....That doesn't mean, they are not good players. I believe, we will, in time see these players playing much better for us....so many of our players are playing within themselves.....I expect to see that change, gradually. I think they are both very good players, I just don't believe Ings was the right purchase for us for reasons set out above. However, now he is here I do think he will be a good squad player (albeit an expensive one!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 We have some excellent kids coming through. However, if we are aspiring to reach top 6 I don't think we want to be seeing much of them at this stage! Personally, I would have liked to see another central midfielder come in last summer (say McKennie or similar) and JJ go out on loan to the top of the championship and play 30+ games there. If he did well enough, he should then be coming back next summer and maybe push an established star out or get a loan out to a bottom half PL team to prove his capabilities. I don't see Chelski leaving space for Gilmour and Gallagher but, if they are good enough, they will force their way back in as Mount has. From what I have seen of JPB he should be in the championship playing 90 mins in the second half of the season. Unless we are not signing a new wide player to replace El Ghazi in which case I would use him ahead of AEG. Archer could also get loaned to the Championship. I think it is useful to have Carney and middle Ramsey and possibly Iregbonum around the first team squad but I think the first two need a good loan next summer. I don't want them learning on our dollar but I do want them getting proper experience and being developed in the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) Martinez, Cash, Mings, McGinn, all first teamers away from training today. Anyone else? Not ideal even with those having less prep. edit - Watkins was at training. Edited November 15, 2021 by troon_villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, troon_villan said: Martinez, Cash, Mings, McGinn, Watkins all first teamers away from training today. Anyone else? Not ideal even with those having less prep. Watkins was training today as he’s on the official pics. Nakamba is away and got injured over the weekend I think. Not sure on Traore or Luiz as they’ve been removing from injury. Sanson was in France over the weekend but assume he’ll be training this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, troon_villan said: Martinez, Cash, Mings, McGinn, all first teamers away from training today. Anyone else? Not ideal even with those having less prep. edit - Watkins was at training. Cash is about to play his first home game for Poland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Had a dream we go up 1-0. Then in the 2nd half we cop a red card and collapse to lose 5-1. Luckily my dreams are right only 49% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted November 17, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 15/11/2021 at 11:16, barry'sboots said: I think they are both very good players, I just don't believe Ings was the right purchase for us for reasons set out above. However, now he is here I do think he will be a good squad player (albeit an expensive one!) I agree with you, two very good but two very different players. They will give Gerrard very different options and I think a clever manager could work out how to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 15/11/2021 at 23:06, roonst83 said: Guess we're as clueless as he will be given he'll only meet the full team 48 hours before the game. True but which players will he only have 48 hours with that are key? Martinez/Mings/Cash/Bailey? He'll know all about the first three without having to have moved from his set top box at home - and being in the game is likely to know about Bailey. Not sure it'll be too taxing for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, peterw said: True but which players will he only have 48 hours with that are key? Martinez/Mings/Cash/Bailey? He'll know all about the first three without having to have moved from his set top box at home - and being in the game is likely to know about Bailey. Not sure it'll be too taxing for him. Also McGinn, Ramsey and Nakamba. Not sure what the state of play is with Luiz or Sanson so the midfield will be the most interesting section dilemma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 In the last 6 fixtures for each side, 12 PL games total, there’s been 1 win. Our win at Old Trafford. Crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 17, 2021 Moderator Share Posted November 17, 2021 Potentially no Bailey and no Nakamba which won't help Gerrard on his opening day. We will desperately need Luiz fit for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 He won’t be able to pick a team based on 2 days of training will he? He’ll have to go by the advise of those already at the club and videos of games etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: In the last 6 fixtures for each side, 12 PL games total, there’s been 1 win. Our win at Old Trafford. Crazy. Don’t think Brighton have lost many though. Its got draw written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted November 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2021 One thing i hope Gerrard can do in the limited time he has is to make us a bit more compact to make us harder to score against. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 17, 2021 Moderator Share Posted November 17, 2021 Douglas Luiz is indoors at Bodymoor today on the watt bike - if he doesn't make Saturday, depending on Sanson we're really going to be struggling. If Sanson makes it, then Sanson, Ramsey and McGinn is passable - if Sanson doesn't make it then I'm not sure what we do. I really don't want to see McGinn put back into the deeper role where he's completely ineffective, but I guess we'd have to. New manager, same problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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