Vive_La_Villa Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, CVByrne said: 4 2 3 1 Targett Mings Hause/Axel Cash McGinn Luiz Bailey Buendia El Ghazi Watkins Of fit Sanson in instead of one of those attacking 3 I don’t think Luiz and Sanson are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 3, 2021 23 hours ago, rjenkins said: It's a good thing I'm not a football manager, because I would be so tempted to try and stink out this game and keep it close for as long as possible. Martinez Tuanzebe Hause Mings Targett Cash Luiz Nakamba McGinn Watkins Davis Get the ball up to Davis to hold up and go from there. Make MacPhee earn his money from set pieces. Make Sean Dyche open a bottle of wine for the game. Villa win 1-0 Christ that lineup is absolutely dreadful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 3, 2021 Moderator Share Posted November 3, 2021 If we have no Luiz and no Sanson and no Ramsey - we're buggered. -----------------------------Martinez------------------------- Cash---------Tuanzebe--------Mings------Targett ------------Young---McGinn--Nakamba------------- Buendia----------------------------------------------Bailey -----------------------------Watkins--------------------------- subs; Steer, Hause, Bogarde, Chukwuemeka, Iroegbanum, A Ramsey, El Ghazi, Davis, Archer. It's a horror show. That midfield will get run over. We're potentially missing - Konsa, Luiz, Sanson, J Ramsey, Traore, Trezeguet, Ings and Philogene-Bidace in a game where the manager is fighting for his future. Anyone know when the pre-match press conference is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: If we have no Luiz and no Sanson and no Ramsey - we're buggered. -----------------------------Martinez------------------------- Cash---------Tuanzebe--------Mings------Targett ------------Young---McGinn--Nakamba------------- Buendia----------------------------------------------Bailey -----------------------------Watkins--------------------------- subs; Steer, Hause, Bogarde, Chukwuemeka, Iroegbanum, A Ramsey, El Ghazi, Davis, Archer. It's a horror show. That midfield will get run over. We're potentially missing - Konsa, Luiz, Sanson, J Ramsey, Traore, Trezeguet, Ings and Philogene-Bidace in a game where the manager is fighting for his future. Anyone know when the pre-match press conference is? I think if all of those players are out we have to look to give Chuk a start. I agree with the rest of your team but I'd start Chuk instead of Young. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 3, 2021 Moderator Share Posted November 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Herman22 said: I think if all of those players are out we have to look to give Chuk a start. I agree with the rest of your team but I'd start Chuk instead of Young. I get that, but I really think that this: -----------------------------Martinez------------------------- Cash---------Tuanzebe--------Mings------Targett ---------------------------Nakamba--------------------------- Buendia----Chukwuemeka---McGinn-----Bailey -----------------------------Watkins--------------------------- Gets run over. I think possibly we could cover for the shortfall with: -----------------------------Martinez---------------------------- -------------Tuanzebe--Hause----Mings----------------- Cash--------Nakamba----------McGinn-------Targett -----------------------Chukwuemeka------------------------- -----------------Watkins----------------Davis----------------- But the pressure on Chukwuemeka to create just about everything as the fulcrum of the side would be enormous and I'm still not sure that works in the middle. Maybe: -----------------------------Martinez---------------------------- -------------Tuanzebe--Hause----Mings----------------- Cash--------Nakamba----------McGinn-------Targett -------------Chukwuemeka------Buendia---------------- ------------------------------Watkins---------------------------- Which is a bit more like the system Chelsea play. Heck, our midfield is so weak, I'd consider the old 3-7-0! -----------------------------Martinez---------------------------- -------------Tuanzebe--Hause----Mings----------------- Cash--------Nakamba----------McGinn-------Targett --------Buendia---Chukwuemeka---Bailey------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didiersix Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 We need Luiz and/or Sanson fit. Simple as... they have to play if we are to have a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted November 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 3, 2021 39 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: -----------------------------Martinez---------------------------- -------------Tuanzebe--Hause----Mings----------------- Cash--------Nakamba----------McGinn-------Targett -------------Chukwuemeka------Buendia---------------- ------------------------------Watkins---------------------------- That's not bad actually under the circumstances, I really don't think we'll see a 3 at the back though. Might have been an opportunity for Arjan Raikhy. What about: -----------------------------Martinez-------------------------- Cash------------Hause----------Mings--------Targett -----------------Tuanzebe---------McGinn---------------- Buendia----------Chukwuemeka--------------Bailey -----------------------------Watkins--------------------------- Konsa probs more suited to DM but no choice there either. Tuanzebe is tidy enough with the ball at his feet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 3, 2021 Moderator Share Posted November 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, romavillan said: What about: -----------------------------Martinez-------------------------- Cash------------Hause----------Mings--------Targett -----------------Tuanzebe---------McGinn---------------- Buendia----------Chukwuemeka--------------Bailey -----------------------------Watkins--------------------------- I think for me its a no because of players out of position - with Tuanzebe in midfield there's a player out of position, but it's only one, it could work I suppose - however, with Konsa out, we're also asking one of our left sided centre halves to play on the right hand side of the defence and that's two players out of position in a defence that's already shakier than an old mans handshake. I'm increasingly convinced that there isn't a good solution to this one. I'm coming around to either play Iroegbanum next to Nakamba with McGinn in front or pray that Luiz or Sanson are available 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted November 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: I think for me its a no because of players out of position - with Tuanzebe in midfield there's a player out of position, but it's only one, it could work I suppose - however, with Konsa out, we're also asking one of our left sided centre halves to play on the right hand side of the defence and that's two players out of position in a defence that's already shakier than an old mans handshake. I'm increasingly convinced that there isn't a good solution to this one. I'm coming around to either play Iroegbanum next to Nakamba with McGinn in front or pray that Luiz or Sanson are available Yeah it's a shit situation to be in considering how much is on the line if all the noise about Smith is to be believed. I'm not sure NSWE are that short sighted though, maybe they're already planning signing our version of Anguissa in Jan to sort things out in midfield.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, romavillan said: That's not bad actually under the circumstances, I really don't think we'll see a 3 at the back though. Might have been an opportunity for Arjan Raikhy. What about: -----------------------------Martinez-------------------------- Cash------------Hause----------Mings--------Targett -----------------Tuanzebe---------McGinn---------------- Buendia----------Chukwuemeka--------------Bailey -----------------------------Watkins--------------------------- Konsa probs more suited to DM but no choice there either. Tuanzebe is tidy enough with the ball at his feet. Thats not a bad shout, under the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjenkins Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Christ that lineup is absolutely dreadful I wasn't being serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossco76 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 hours ago, romavillan said: That's not bad actually under the circumstances, I really don't think we'll see a 3 at the back though. Might have been an opportunity for Arjan Raikhy. What about: -----------------------------Martinez-------------------------- Cash------------Hause----------Mings--------Targett -----------------Tuanzebe---------McGinn---------------- Buendia----------Chukwuemeka--------------Bailey -----------------------------Watkins--------------------------- Konsa probs more suited to DM but no choice there either. Tuanzebe is tidy enough with the ball at his feet. Been thinking the same myself about one of the CB's stepping up into DM. Out of the three Hause, Zebe and Mings would Mings be better in the DM spot? Keeps right and left footed CB's in the middle at the back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossco76 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) I'm defo in favour of Targett dropping out as well. Edited November 4, 2021 by Rossco76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted November 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Rossco76 said: Been thinking the same myself about one of the CB's stepping up into DM. Out of the three Hause, Zebe and Mings would Mings be better in the DM spot? Keeps right and left footed CB's in the middle at the back then? Tuanzebe is the technically better footballer for me seeing as we can't use Konsa because of the awesome standard of refereeing in the PL. Left foot / right foot at CBs helps loads though and defensively we need all the help we can get at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 19 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: If we have no Luiz and no Sanson and no Ramsey - we're buggered. -----------------------------Martinez------------------------- Cash---------Tuanzebe--------Mings------Targett ------------Young---McGinn--Nakamba------------- Buendia----------------------------------------------Bailey -----------------------------Watkins--------------------------- subs; Steer, Hause, Bogarde, Chukwuemeka, Iroegbanum, A Ramsey, El Ghazi, Davis, Archer. It's a horror show. That midfield will get run over. We're potentially missing - Konsa, Luiz, Sanson, J Ramsey, Traore, Trezeguet, Ings and Philogene-Bidace in a game where the manager is fighting for his future. Anyone know when the pre-match press conference is? Agree if we've lost Ramsey, Luiz and Sanson we're buggered. I'd start McGinn and Nakamba with Buendia ahead of them in 10. With El Ghazi and Bailey and Watkins up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted November 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2021 On 02/11/2021 at 23:21, GingerCollins29 said: I'm sure the players will be aware of the rumours floating around smith. If they are truly behind him, they will literally throw everything at it to win that game. We live in hope. I think this will be the response - they've clearly needed a kick up the arse and I think the penny has dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: Agree if we've lost Ramsey, Luiz and Sanson we're buggered. I'd start McGinn and Nakamba with Buendia ahead of them in 10. With El Ghazi and Bailey and Watkins up top. We're obviously between a rock and hard place here but if I had to choose a player to battle for every morsal in a match to save my job not sure I'd choose El Ghazi. I feel like Targett is in absolutly honking form and deserves dropping a lot more than Mings did last week. I'd be tempted to stick Young in at left back and give Carney a go. Huge pressure for him and a massive role of the dice but its do or die time in lots of ways right now. Edited November 4, 2021 by villaglint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Martinez Cash-Tuanzebe-Mings-Targett McGinn-Nakamba Bailey-Buendia-El Ghazi Watkins For me, but christ every variation looks a bit weak with the squad we have available. If nothing else the above gets players into positions they've at least played in with some regularity (even though it's still not ideal in the cases of Buendia and McGinn) rather than completely shoe-horning players in or giving some youngsters a go which I think Smith will be averse to doing given the circumstances. If not for that I'd have wondered again if it'd be worth the risk giving Iroegbunam a go to be honest. Luiz is a particularly big loss given how much better we've looked with him this season, but there's still enough there to hurt an underwhelming - albeit evidently difficult to beat - Southampton side this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 A win. That is based on blind faith rather than anything else. Our midfield looks weak no matter which way you slice it at the moment, that is the big problem. We have got goals in us which is frustrating. Archer to come off the bench and get the winner. 3-2 to Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, The Fun Factory said: A win. That is based on blind faith rather than anything else. Our midfield looks weak no matter which way you slice it at the moment, that is the big problem. We have got goals in us which is frustrating. Archer to come off the bench and get the winner. 3-2 to Villa. Saints is a high pressing team. Have my concerns how we will cope with it. I have them as favorites. The home advantage is huge with crowds back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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