Popular Post The_Steve Posted October 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2021 Powerful video. Thank you Josh for being your authentic self finally, and let’s hope others feel ready to do so too. 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted October 27, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2021 yep good on him...no doubt there are others out there, hopefully this will make them feel comfortable to do the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Shocking it’s taken this long, society sometimes is cruel. Fair play, brave lad. Hopefully the first steps in allowing others to feel brave enough to not have to hide because of chimp like smooth brain morons ruining society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Ingram85 said: Shocking it’s taken this long, society sometimes is cruel. For this reason, I'm not shocked. Football attracts some of the worst in society. It doesn't feel that long ago I was stood on the Holte hearing thousands of people chant "Upson takes it up the arse". Well done to him for braving it, hopefully the reaction allows other peope to be comfortable doing the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 27, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2021 Said in the past that we need some footballers to come out in order to tackle the problems that will inevitably come with it. I'm sure that unfortunately Josh and other footballers that come out will be the subject of abuse. I just hope it's tackled appropriately to pave the way for players in future to come out safely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 We have a popular Prime Minister who uses the term ‘bum boys’ and the people who love him are like minded morons. It ain’t changing in the UK at least anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 Will openly gay players or those wanting to be out want to play for clubs owned by human rights abusers? I mean, if Australia qualify for the World Cup it raises some serious questions about their safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Davkaus said: For this reason, I'm not shocked. Football attracts some of the worst in society. It doesn't feel that long ago I was stood on the Holte hearing thousands of people chant "Upson takes it up the arse". Well done to him for braving it, hopefully the reaction allows other peope to be comfortable doing the same. journalists? i think there's an unfair criticism of football fans around this, don't get me wrong there will be a large portion of idiots but i would also think that the ability to cope with that is easier than the ability to cope with the media prying in to your life, if a PL player especially an english one came out then they'd be front page of the red tops, their private life is over that to me is the bigger reason why you would keep quiet rather than homophobic chanting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 He isn't the first top flight player, I am sure Rogers played in the MLS after he came out of retirement. Obviously it doesn't take anything away from his bravery. Hopefully he is treated with respect by fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 27, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Will openly gay players or those wanting to be out want to play for clubs owned by human rights abusers? I mean, if Australia qualify for the World Cup it raises some serious questions about their safety Knowing FIFA they'll probably demand that Josh declares himself straight or he'll be banned from the world cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted October 27, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2021 Good for him for having the guts to do this, but it really annoys me that this is a thing he feels has to do and that it is even remotely newsworthy. Hopefully we'll reach a point soon where it isn't something that anybody ever needs to worry about let alone make public announcements about. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Lichfield Dean said: Good for him for having the guts to do this, but it really annoys me that this is a thing he feels has to do and that it is even remotely newsworthy. Hopefully we'll reach a point soon where it isn't something that anybody ever needs to worry about let alone make public announcements about. This is where I'm at with it, he's announced it, obviously it is going to make the news as he is the first player to come out or whatever, write that one article and then leave it at that, don't turn him into a celebrity or a poster boy unless it is for his abilities on the pitch otherwise it will be counter productive, some players may want to just come out quietly without any big announcement and if there are constant stories about it (positive or negative) then it will make it difficult for some people. I couldn't care less and if everyone else took that approach (including the media) then it wouldn't be newsworthy at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Good on you lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Newcastle's owners didn't like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 A good day for the game. There was actually a ref in football league who came out the other week and barely anything was said so hopefully this shows at some point in next decade many more players/other people involved in football will feel comfortable enough if they so wish to announce it although of course any big premier league player will get huge publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 7 hours ago, Zatman said: He isn't the first top flight player, I am sure Rogers played in the MLS after he came out of retirement. Obviously it doesn't take anything away from his bravery. Hopefully he is treated with respect by fans I assume it's current registered player. Didn't Tommy Hitz do his announcement the day after he retired IIRC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, leemond2008 said: This is where I'm at with it, he's announced it, obviously it is going to make the news as he is the first player to come out or whatever, write that one article and then leave it at that, don't turn him into a celebrity or a poster boy unless it is for his abilities on the pitch otherwise it will be counter productive, some players may want to just come out quietly without any big announcement and if there are constant stories about it (positive or negative) then it will make it difficult for some people. I couldn't care less and if everyone else took that approach (including the media) then it wouldn't be newsworthy at all. And in a perfect world etc.... If an England international outed himself you'd have all the chat shows lining up, that's how it is really. When Gareth Thomas said it as high profile Rugby player he was on plenty of them around the time. I think though anyone would look at the fuss over taking the knee from minority of crowds and conclude why bother even if it's a different thing. Edited October 27, 2021 by VillaChris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 As great as this is, I can’t help being angry that this even makes the news. Why in the 21st century should this even be a bloody talking point? Its like racism and the fanfare about Obama becoming the first black president, we’ve only beat this shit as a society when no one bats a eyelid to this sort of stuff. I’ve had a couple of beers tonight so I’ve probably not articulated my thoughts properly, but it’s bullshit we are even talking about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) Not the first time a high profile Australian sportsman has come out. Ian Roberts, Australian Rugby League player, came out in the 90's. He had less to worry about though, as he was built like a steel shithouse, and could fold you up like a deckchair if you gave him any grief, but unlikely, because he was actually a very nice guy. Edited October 27, 2021 by AJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I long for the day when stuff like this is no longer news, but for now good for him for being brave enough to be himself. Now, kick on, son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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