GingerCollins29 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Can see us conceding 3 again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Think they are better than us to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I think we’ll beat them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Another defeat, VT meltdown, manager under pressure etc etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Not a team I'm looking forward to us facing on the back of three successive defeats and I would probably take a point right now if offered. They are likely to play a 4-2-3-1 with Rice and Soucek a very strong midfield partnership I think the best way to combat this would be to pack the midfield and go 4-5-1. We definitely don't need to be playing 3 central defenders (against a lone striker in Antonio) and our recent performances confirm that anyway - It worked to an extent at Chelsea (still lost) but not every game. We have conceded 3 goals in our last two matches and I think we need to get a more solid base to work from, therefore injuries / fitness issues aside, I would go something like this: Martinez Cash Konsa Mings Young Traore Luiz Nakamba McGinn Bailey Watkins Ings a little unfortunate not to start as he has been better than Ollie so far this season but I do think Watkins is more suited to play as a lone forward hence why I would give him the nod - I would be hoping that having Ings on the bench to come on at any time for him (ok, 60 mins on) will spur him on to reaching the levels of last season I think Young's knowhow might be important against the likes of Benrahma and Bowen so I include him over Targett. Traore (if fit) and Bailey given license to get at the West Ham full backs and provide ammunition to Ollie. Key will be the midfield battle - they did a right number on us at VP last season and if they win this tussle it will be a long afternoon for us. There are arguments for various combinations in the midfield area, the likes of Sanson, Ramsey, Buendia, Chuck and to be honest I am not sure which is our "strongest" 3 which is completely different to our opponents. They are all capable of good and bad moments. I think Nakamba makes us a bit more solid and we tend to win more than we lose when he plays (?), yes his passing isn't great but I don't think it's a time for being pretty - just a time for grafting and getting the points for the real team in claret and blue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Please 4-3-3 with one of Watkins or Ings not both. Let’s see what Bailey offers over 90 minutes: would love to see Bailey left and Buendia right and a solid midfield 3. Hope Bertie is back too. We really shouldn’t struggle with a full squad, we have so much talent, but it really is how you set them up. Let’s get back to basics and build on what worked last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, thunderball said: Please 4-3-3 with one of Watkins or Ings not both. Let’s see what Bailey offers over 90 minutes: would love to see Bailey left and Buendia right and a solid midfield 3. Hope Bertie is back too. We really shouldn’t struggle with a full squad, we have so much talent, but it really is how you set them up. Let’s get back to basics and build on what worked last season. If needs be I honestly wouldn’t have a problem with Watkins out left. I don’t get with the big deal is with playing him there. He loves to take players on and cut in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 25, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 24/10/2021 at 17:31, VillaAlex said: Terrified of their set pieces and our recent record. Agreed. Also terrified with our set piece defending. Set pieces will sink us again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 532 = lose 4-3-3 = who knows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Spoony said: 532 = lose 4-3-3 = who knows I tell you what's funny about this game... it feels like the time we need to move away from 352 now. Yet, that loses us a CB and I'm terrified of West Ham from set-pieces. If the team isn't, they haven't been watching them properly this season. Honestly if we're going to play a back 4 I'm tempted to say play Hause regardless and figure out the others after. We need big Korts in there powering everything away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Martinez Cash Konsa Mings Young Luiz. Sanson Buendia Traore Watkins Bailey Mmmkay, thanks Dean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 4-3-3 please. McGinn Luiz Ramsey midfield. Front 3 either Watkins-Ings-Bailey or Bailey-Watkins-Buendia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Hmm, dominant in the air, strong large team with 2 or 3 tricky players. This game calls for hause to combat Antonio and have someone who can head the ball with any sort of accuracy. Would be tempted for ings emi on right Bailey on left Luiz mcginn sansom in the middle Back 4 And be prepared to switch things if its not going to plan. The back 5 works with hause, it doesn't without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Wonder if we'll get that Bailey & Bertie connection this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 A battling draw would be a decent result. Just need something to steady the ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I'd have a Mings - Hause partnership for this one. Konsa has been very shaky lately and West Ham is the type of game that Hause thrives in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I've got a golden glow in my soul about this one, I think we will at least get a win, it just feels inevitable. If not a draw just to end the run of defeats and to give us something to build on going into more winnable games against Crystal Palace, Southampton and Brighton, not a bad result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 hours ago, useless said: I've got a golden glow in my soul about this one, I think we will at least get a win, it just feels inevitable. If not a draw just to end the run of defeats and to give us something to build on going into more winnable games against Crystal Palace, Southampton and Brighton, not a bad result. I honestly think we are going to be destroyed 3 or 4 nil 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbertoAVFC Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Villa Park is gonna be absolutely grim if we lose this...please start well. Oh and please drop Targett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 When our fans get too optimistic before a game I always think it's a worrying sign, this is kind of the opposite, after all the moaning and melodrama, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we then went and beat West Ham. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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