roonst83 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Assume we’ll be keeping the 5-3-2 given that it’s unlikely we’ll have Bailey or Traore available. We need to find a way of getting the best out of Watkins and Ings. Playing them both together seems to nullify both of their attacking qualities and neither seem to be able to get though or behind a defence. As always, our midfield is crucial to this game. McGinn seemed better when given more licence to get further up the field. I expect Buendia to start after impressing against Wolves and his perfect through ball to Ings’s chance is precisely what we need from him as and when he gets a sniff. If we can score early then their fans may get on their backs. Although if they smash Palace on Monday then they may be more buoyant. My main concern is how fragile and sloppy we became as soon as we conceded the first goal against Wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Ugh. Please not another bottle job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 If we play 5 at the back we'll lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Our manager is shit all our players are shit apparently, so we will lose. Hopefully we will win that’s why I support the Villa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) Boy, do we need a response. Doubt that Bailey will start if he makes an appearance at all. Wouldn't surprise me to see 3-5-2 again. Even if we lose, we have to show mental toughness. No brain dead mistakes or capitulations. Edited October 16, 2021 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 It’s not looking good for this one. They have hit form recently and despite a couple of good performances overall, our season has been disappointing thus far. It’s hard to see anything other than another defeat here. We just have to get the performance right. We are still way too easy to get at and pretty toothless up front. I would take a draw now to be honest but suspect a regulation 2-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Don’t know how I’m gonna muster the motivation to watch this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmirch Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Cash Konsa Hause Young Chuk Luiz Buendia Ings Archer Watkins Fack it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) I can’t dwell on the weekend result any longer and need to look ahead to Arsenal away on Friday evening. We need a bounce back performance here for sure. Now, last season we had some fantastic performances against some real top teams and this without the need to play 3 or 5 at the back. I really think Deano needs to mix it up a little and revert to his tried and trusted formation. Call it 433 or 4231, have some guts and drop the two up top for now. My guess is he won’t though and we’ll see 352 again but with one or two changes in personnel possibly. However, my preference would be to see two wide players up with a lone striker and stretch that Arsenal defence like last season. We completely blew them away last year with the speed of our counter attacks and would love to see that kind of performance again. Be brave Dean: Martinez Cash Konsa Mings Targett Luiz McGinn Sanson Buendia Ings El Ghazi Subs: Steer, Tuanzebe, Hause, Young, Ramsey, Carney, Traore, Bailey, Watkins It’s a risk and perhaps controversial to leave out Watkins and I wouldn’t be against him having a spot on the left of a front three but I’m not sure if he’d be disciplined enough to stick with it. If we had a fully fit squad then Bailey would start obviously but he’s likely to only make the bench. Edited October 17, 2021 by ferguson1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 We generally match up well v Arsenal. Since Arteta came in we've beaten them by aggregate of 5-0 and even the 3-2 loss there we completely messed up despite playing really well (some very questionable second half decisions from DS IIRC cost us). So regardless of yesterday Arsenal away is no longer a game that we should just write off pre kick off. Interesting how we play this. Given how Arsenal came out v Spurs and our collapse yesterday think the logical tactic would be just to sit deep and wait for chances on the break so if it's 0-0 by the hour mark that's good from us. Got the feeling though it will be end to end. I'll go for an entertaining 2-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 11 hours ago, Wainy316 said: Don’t know how I’m gonna muster the motivation to watch this Why? We played brilliantly there last season. We'll create chances. We'll concede chances so if it's interesting game for the neutral so I don't see why a fan of one of the clubs wouldn't want to watch. You're not another of these "top 6 at all costs otherwise it's the end of the world" types? I'm surprised at the negativity as I've found this season interesting in how we're rebuilding the team. I enjoyed watching us v Brentford (probably more due to being back at VP for first time in 18 months), Chelsea in how we played, Man. United for obvious reasons and Everton (second half) so this idea the season has been a disaster from start to finish is a little bit misguided compared to some of the months of dross we've served up in most seasons in the last decade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 9 hours ago, MrSmirch said: Cash Konsa Hause Young Chuk Luiz Buendia Ings Archer Watkins Fack it Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Quick turnaround for Arsenal with this game being Friday night. Lets hope the 2 extra days rest count for something. Need a big response. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 12 hours ago, VillaChris said: Why? We played brilliantly there last season. We'll create chances. We'll concede chances so if it's interesting game for the neutral so I don't see why a fan of one of the clubs wouldn't want to watch. You're not another of these "top 6 at all costs otherwise it's the end of the world" types? Nah I was just having a whinge because of how spirit crushing Saturday was. Anyway, back to it...5-3-2 in the bin …………….Martinez...………… Cash...Konsa...Mings….Targett …………………..Luiz...……………. ………….Sanson….McGinn...... Buendia………………………...El Ghazi …………………...Ings……………………... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 13 hours ago, VillaChris said: Why? We played brilliantly there last season. We'll create chances. We'll concede chances so if it's interesting game for the neutral so I don't see why a fan of one of the clubs wouldn't want to watch. You're not another of these "top 6 at all costs otherwise it's the end of the world" types? I'm surprised at the negativity as I've found this season interesting in how we're rebuilding the team. I enjoyed watching us v Brentford (probably more due to being back at VP for first time in 18 months), Chelsea in how we played, Man. United for obvious reasons and Everton (second half) so this idea the season has been a disaster from start to finish is a little bit misguided compared to some of the months of dross we've served up in most seasons in the last decade. Yep that’s were I am too. It’s a frustrating season so far if anything because of what could have been but there’s plenty of positives to take. Bizarre so many people desperate to go back to 4-3-3 off the back of a performance we were utterly dominant in for 80mins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Both the Emi’s will be bang up for this one, as should the rest of the side. Good chance to show our character and put Saturday to bed. 4 in a row against Arsenal would be very good going. Deano bring it home 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Given we have beaten them the last three times that we have played them, have recorded clean sheets on each of those occasions and beat them 3-0 on their own patch last season, I would not expect that too many Gooners would see this as a gimme. We will not arrive there on the back of a win, but we should have and although Coral make us 13/4 for this, Arsenal after a poor start to the season will begin the game only 3 points ahead of us, at best. I'm hoping to see a bit more of this: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) Ings or Watkins need to be dropped for this one, and we should go 4 at the Back this isn’t me hating on the 3-5-2 either it has it place and time but shouldn’t be our formation by default just because we have 2 good strikers Edited October 18, 2021 by gwi1890 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Lost 2 on the bounce. Ings and Watkins look completely out of sync with eachother. It's truly truly time to get back to basics and a 1 striker system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 7 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Quick turnaround for Arsenal with this game being Friday night. Lets hope the 2 extra days rest count for something. Need a big response. In our experience, this usually has absolutely no positive effect for us and teams tend to bizarrely do better when they have less time between games than we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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