JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Maybe I was wrong then, for some reason, I thought he's scored at least one in a friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 That was definitely his first England goal. He’s had multiple assists but never scored. In the interview at the last England camp that rubbed a lot of us the wrong way he spoke about how desperate he was to score for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Remember about 6 months ago when Southgate really didn’t even want Jack in his squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Nice to see a couple of ex-villans linking up for the 5th there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Southgate talking babble again, like it was tactical genius to beat Andorra. He's started to bore me with his phycological bullshite. Just get the team out there playing to the best of there abilities, instead of trying to hard on the safe tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Southgate talking babble again, like it was tactical genius to beat Andorra. He's started to bore me with his phycological bullshite. Just get the team out there playing to the best of there abilities, instead of trying to hard on the safe tactics. The guy just can't win. He won 5-0 with his C-team. Biggest win in Andorra in England history, by 2 goals. I doubt they'll be cracking open the champagne, but it was a good win. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, Keyblade said: The guy just can't win. He won 5-0 with his C-team. Biggest win in Andorra in England history, by 2 goals. I doubt they'll be cracking open the champagne, but it was a good win. Honestly think the moaning about him on this site is ridiculous at times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Honestly think the moaning about him on this site is ridiculous at times. I think he's not a pretty poor manager, but that doesn't mean literally everything he does is bad. Even Tim Sherwood got some things right on occasion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I think he's not a pretty poor manager, but that doesn't mean literally everything he does is bad. Even Tim Sherwood got some things right on occasion. He has his weaknesses and his drawbacks, but at the end of the day he's not only the most successful manager of my lifetime, but the most successful manager for about 50 odd years. Just for that he would deserve some slack, but to be having a whine after a routine 5-0 win away from home is bizarre. People complaining because it isn't 'exciting'. When is the last time Andorra had an 'exciting' match? How could you possibly have an 'exciting' game against semi-pro players in a low block? People just moaning to have a moan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Foden was great albeit against very limited opposition. As I said during comms hopefully he can get a run in central midfield for England. England have loads of options for left wing so makes sense to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Foden was great albeit against very limited opposition. As I said during comms hopefully he can get a run in central midfield for England. England have loads of options for left wing so makes sense to me. Agreed I said almost 12 months ago I wanted to see him there. What we lose in defensive solidity we gain in keeping the ball better and having more cutting edge. Hopes it’s an experiment that gets more game time. I basically hate anyone who plays for a super knobs team these days and it was against a pub team but he was a joy to watch tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: He has his weaknesses and his drawbacks, but at the end of the day he's not only the most successful manager of my lifetime, but the most successful manager for about 50 odd years. Just for that he would deserve some slack, but to be having a whine after a routine 5-0 win away from home is bizarre. People complaining because it isn't 'exciting'. When is the last time Andorra had an 'exciting' match? How could you possibly have an 'exciting' game against semi-pro players in a low block? People just moaning to have a moan. Agreed I thought it was a good performance. We’ve all seen loads of England sides struggle to break teams down in those types of games. I thought we looked dangerous throughout the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Thinking about it: Rice-Bellingham-Foden looks the best balanced CM trio for Qatar. Southgate no doubt will bottle it though and stick in 7 defenders v any half decent opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 For a bloke who has got England to the World Cup semi final and the European Championship final it's amazing how many people really don't like Gareth Southgate. Presumably you guys also think Guardiola is a fraud because he's only won the Champions League twice? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, The_Rev said: For a bloke who has got England to the World Cup semi final and the European Championship final it's amazing how many people really don't like Gareth Southgate. Presumably you guys also think Guardiola is a fraud because he's only won the Champions League twice? Not sure I see the correlation? Guardiola actually won the trophies, whereas Southgate lost in a semifinal and a final despite having arguably the strongest squad in the tournament for the latter. This reminds me of "Bruce got us to the playoff final" from around the time he got sacked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I totally get the anti Southgate narrative. It just hurts to see such negative defensive football when we have the best attacking players we have possibly ever had. And let’s be real, the WC and Euro runs WERE easy. We still come undone every time we play someone half decent. Germany was a decent result but that Germany team is the worst I’ve ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheAuthority Posted October 10, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2021 The Southgate hate is an accumulation of years - at least for me First he buggered off saying Villa didn't match his ambition. Well, yes, Doug underinvested and penny pinched, but he went to Middlesborough. Once again, he went to Middlesborough. After Little had made him an England regular by converting him to a Center Back he left saying he needed to "achieve." He won one League cup with them exactly as he had done with us. We also qualified for Europe far more than they did. Then he literally lands the England job because he was the only bloke left standing and is very palatable to the folks at the FA (whoever the f**k they are.) He plays negative, boring football, and seemed to ignore Villa's (and IMO Englands) best player until he moved to an oil rich club and now plays him all the time. If even said that Grelish needed to be playing against top opposition every week to make the team. Well, thanks Gareth. All that makes me dislike him. He's had the easiest runs of any manager in my lifetime at any tournament and every time he's met a decent team he's been shown up. Honestly, he could win the world cup and I would still dislike him, his history with AVFC, his boring dull football and his big-nosed tw@ face. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 For me the Southgate hate comes from having the arguably the best squad in the tournament, with a bench to match, which was confirmed by Mancini in the Euro's. We lost that game because the tactics were all wrong after the goal and too safe, it's like he thought the game was won and we could hold out against Italy for 90 minutes. Also we have had 2 of the easiest run ins of nearly any of the other teams in the Euro's an the World cup and failed when we come up to any serious competition/Team. Italy were there for the taking after the goal in the Euros, but we sat back and ended up being schooled by a 37 Chiellini and then Gareth mugged the penalties by not trusting the young guns. He is a great speaker (although tries too hard sometimes) and has a great footballing brain, but his decision making including playing Trent Alexander in a position he has never played, when he is arguably one of the best RB's and passers of the ball in Europe, will continue to stop us from winning a final. He is the Solskjaer of international football, his type of football is bland when under pressure, an dare I say, one of the reasons the final was lost against Italy was because of his stubbornness in playing Jack the full game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Not sure Tammy Abraham will ever be an international footballer. I agree about Foden he can spray passes around like De Bruyne. Sancho did pretty well against limited opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, PaulC said: Not sure Tammy Abraham will ever be an international footballer. I agree about Foden he can spray passes around like De Bruyne. Sancho did pretty well against limited opposition Don't think he will either but still he's better than DCL Ollie I'm not sure, his pressing is incredible and there's a place for it, would say the 3 strikers in this squad when all fit and with a bit of form are about as good as England can hope for And let's face it a half fit out of form kane will still start every game when it matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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