MWARLEY2 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 The Mail have added a few more interesting bits. He scored 16 and assisted 14 during the 19-20 season for Northampton U18s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Why are sky sports running a story of Northampton signing him from us, have they just got it the wrong way round?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Which of Davis or Wesley does this push out then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, StewieGriffin said: Which of Davis or Wesley does this push out then? From the clips I've seen he looks physically ready for senior football, if he is anywhere near as good as his brother , he should straight away be ahead of them 2 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 With Barry and Young having gone out on loan and Archer presumably likely to follow them, we don't have much in the way of strikers in our academy at the moment, Shakpoke and Moore probably the only two that you'd call out and out strikers and even with those two the former is injured and the latter has only just been promoted from the U16s, so I think to begin with we're likely to use him in the U23s, even if he's older than the age that we'd normally use at that level. Can always use him in the EFL Cup and EFL Trophy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Czarnikjak said: I see him being loaned out. He wasn't even a starter for Northampton in Ligue 2 last season, made 20 appearneaced off the bench and only 4 starts. For 19 year old it's not that impressive...I wonder if we bought him to keep Carney happy? Northampton is in France? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Surely we will loan him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, useless said: With Barry and Young having gone out on loan and Archer presumably likely to follow them, we don't have much in the way of strikers in our academy at the moment, Shakpoke and Moore probably the only two that you'd call out and out strikers and even with those two the former is injured and the latter has only just been promoted from the U16s, so I think to begin with we're likely to use him in the U23s, even if he's older than the age that we'd normally use at that level. Can always use him in the EFL Cup and EFL Trophy as well. Just now, messi11 said: Surely we will loan him out I cant see him being in the u23s, he's 19 years old, 20 in Jan, he wont develop any more playing kids football? I think he really needs to be loaned out or around the first team squad?, anything else will be hindering a lad who is nearly 20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted August 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2021 He's been signed for the academy as stated on the official site and hence the quotes from Mark Harrison rather than Dean Smith. Playing for our U23s will give him a chance to get to know the way we want to play and get to know some of the other players, won't hurt his development, it's not as if he's had no first team experience, he's had that at Northampton, and whilst playing for our U23s he can still play in cup competitions including the EFL Trophy, and bearing in mind he can play anyone across the front three he might even make a few matchday squads in the premier league. Maybe in January we will assess again, by then Kobei Moore will have more experience, hopefully Shakpoke will have been fully fit for a while, and some of the second year scholars like Sewell and Reddin as forwards should be looking to establish themselves at U23 level as well, so might be more scope to loan him out then. Of course we may loan him out straight away, but I see this signing as similar to the Iroegbunam signing, so can imagine us wanting him to get used to the surroundings at Villa and how we work before we loan him out, and I'd imagine our coaches will want to work with him first as well. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I don't get why we've signed a player who turns 20 in January and has score one goal from his 22 gales for Northampton. Just feels like a player who won't really make it here and we'll sell on in a few years. I think this is part of the strategy to make revenue like Liverpool City and Chelsea do well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 So is it Chukwuemekas, or Chukwuemekae? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 42 minutes ago, CVByrne said: I don't get why we've signed a player who turns 20 in January and has score one goal from his 22 gales for Northampton. Just feels like a player who won't really make it here and we'll sell on in a few years. I think this is part of the strategy to make revenue like Liverpool City and Chelsea do well I can see your argument but Spurs we’re in for him too. Perhaps they had the same intensions? I’m pretty sure of the 30+ development players we’ve signed in the last 12 months, there will be a fair few that ultimately will end up moving on. I doubt we’d sign a player purely with the intention of making a few quid in a year or two, when there will be plenty from that group and probably more that we’ll keep bringing in. He perhaps could be viewed as a late developer with the ability to step up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 9 hours ago, gwi1890 said: Northampton is in France? It's pronounced Nortamptaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: I can see your argument but Spurs we’re in for him too. Perhaps they had the same intensions? I’m pretty sure of the 30+ development players we’ve signed in the last 12 months, there will be a fair few that ultimately will end up moving on. I doubt we’d sign a player purely with the intention of making a few quid in a year or two, when there will be plenty from that group and probably more that we’ll keep bringing in. He perhaps could be viewed as a late developer with the ability to step up? Well I suppose we sign them and the plan is either plan a) they develop into first team players for Aston Villa or b) they don't and are sold to other clubs for a profit which is then available to reinvest into the playing squad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, CVByrne said: Well I suppose we sign them and the plan is either plan a) they develop into first team players for Aston Villa or b) they don't and are sold to other clubs for a profit which is then available to reinvest into the playing squad. I am sure either way, his value just took an instant jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: I don't get why we've signed a player who turns 20 in January and has score one goal from his 22 gales for Northampton. Just feels like a player who won't really make it here and we'll sell on in a few years. I think this is part of the strategy to make revenue like Liverpool City and Chelsea do well 1. Shorter term Keep Carney happy 2. Longer term make small profit on him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: I don't get why we've signed a player who turns 20 in January and has score one goal from his 22 gales for Northampton. Just feels like a player who won't really make it here and we'll sell on in a few years. I think this is part of the strategy to make revenue like Liverpool City and Chelsea do well Our technical team probably sees attributes and deeper stats that lead them to believe he has future potential. The top talents at age 19 are not always the same ones at age 24. .....that or we're doing Carney's agent a favor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 He's still very young, younger than Jacob Ramsey, Tyreik Wright, Cameron Archer, and ony a few days older than Philogene-Bidace. We've obviously signed him because we see some promise in his game, looking at his highlights despite playing a different position, it seems he has a similar playing style to his younger brother, so can see why we'd think it's something we can develop, he was also linked to Brugge, Newcastle, Rangers and Spurs so they must have thought something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichiBoi11 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, useless said: He's still very young, younger than Jacob Ramsey, Tyreik Wright, Cameron Archer, and ony a few days older than Philogene-Bidace. We've obviously signed him because we see some promise in his game, looking at his highlights despite playing a different position, it seems he has a similar playing style to his younger brother, so can see why we'd think it's something we can develop, he was also linked to Brugge, Newcastle, Rangers and Spurs so they must have thought something similar. As Harry Kane showed in the lower leagues, just because you aren't prolific in your initial role/spell in the adult game, it doesn't mean you can't become a well rounded striker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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