Sulberto21 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Theme Park. There it is the money maker. Seriously though more hospitality seats needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, sne said: We are just miles and miles behind the clubs we are aiming to compete with. Think we have people in place to amend this and we should have a good opportunity to increase our existing deals and bring in new ones. But as it stands now we are a very small club in this aspect. Indeed, our commercial deals reflect our current reputation and exposure around the world. Coming back from the championship we are midtable at best in this respect. The reason why Everton are getting £9m and we are getting £6m from Cazzoo is reputation and worldwide following. See the real-time Social media followers numbers, good approximation of the above. https://footballpredictions.net/social-rating/england/premier-league One of the reasons why Chelsea are getting x10 commercial revenue to us is that they have x10 number of fans around the world. Only through the on pitch success we will increase our worldwide recognition and commercial revenue will follow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 This thread is very helpful and explains why Socios is awful Glad lots are calling the club out on Twitter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just gotta win unfortunately. Signing a Chinese player would definitely help, but there is nothing that would help more than being in the Champions League. This is another kick in the teeth in relation to losing Jack, because marketable stars are very important as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 55 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Spurs have a 15 year deal with Nike for 30m a year. They struck that in early 2019. Arsenal have a 60m per year deal with Adidas. Those deals are not quite as lucrative as they appear. It is more about budgeting and guaranteeing future revenues rather than actually being a huge windfall for the clubs. The level of sponsorship is based upon the amount of shirt / kit sales. Nike and Adidas take the lions share of all shirt sales for the 15 year period. The club only gets a small commission, generally in about 7%/8% of the shirt sales value. The elite clubs can push their commission up towards 20%. If Villa is planning on breaking into Europe and challenging in the Champions League then we would possibly be better off avoiding a 'mega' long term shirt sponsorship deal. Otherwise we could end up selling the rights to potentially very large future shirt sales if we start competing in the CL and we would end up with only about 8% of the revenue. I would expect that our next shirt sponsor will only be for 2 or maybe 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, CVByrne said: We're making up what people are "supposedly" saying. Nassef owning 6% of Adidas is obviously a massive benefit in us pitching for a commercial partnership with them and his expertise/contacts in the industry. Business is about relationships. Villa future growth projections as part of a pitch to Adidas will be accepted more readily than another club due to Nassef, which is key to the commercial deal we can get. People will know he means business in what he's saying about Villa's future thats exactly what im saying NS is one of their supervisory board members, he's not even on the executive board, he approaches the rest of them and says i want to sponsor aston villa for £20m a year because i own them...our market value is around £8m a year at a stretch...you think the other board members will nod along in agreement? its one vote per board member, him owning 6% or 1% is irrelevant we might get adidas in the future but it will be at market value, he wont be able to inflate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Dropping out of the Premier League in 2016 was a very bad move as I think that is when the tv deals jumped up to the astronomical levels they are now. There is no reason why we should not be on level par with Everton and Leicester as a bare minimum. Spurs Arsenal and the CL 4 will be very hard to do due to the huge gulf in money, brand awareness, global following and the London factor. I don't know how you can catch up with that. In the last 20 odd years Villa have only been actually 'fashionable' for about 2 of the MON years until recently. The rest of the time we have just been seen as this hugely underachieving club in the middle of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, The_Steve said: This thread is very helpful and explains why Socios is awful Glad lots are calling the club out on Twitter Well I just had an email from Villa about Socios and skim read the first paragraph before putting it straight in the Junk folder - never heard of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 33 minutes ago, The_Steve said: This thread is very helpful and explains why Socios is awful Glad lots are calling the club out on Twitter I’m absolutely sick of this crypto NFT grift bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, a m ole said: I’m absolutely sick of this crypto NFT grift bubble. I’m honestly disgusted the club is endorsing this grift. We need to pushback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, The_Steve said: I’m honestly disgusted the club is endorsing this grift. We need to pushback I’m sorry, do you not want exclusive content?! The ability to participate on polls?! True fan engagement?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, a m ole said: I’m sorry, do you not want exclusive content?! The ability to participate on polls?! True fan engagement?!?! Aha! Indeed Good to see the FSA calling this out at least 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Good to see the FSA calling this out at least Can someone explain in plain English what it's all about 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, CosmicVillan said: Can someone explain in plain English what it's all about This new fan token scheme is the latest crypto grift - it encourages the purchase of Bitcoin for ‘access’ and seeks to capitalise financially as a form of gambling. Any fan can buy coins from any club. The market is as violative as any crypto currency. It’s got nothing of value to offer except the risk of trapping impressionable fans in yet another form of gambling. Look at this example. It’s not about fan engagement but the whims of crypto traders. This thread explains the operation in more detail 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Sulberto21 said: Theme Park. There it is the money maker. Seriously though more hospitality seats needed. With the Lerner-coaster… Takes you up and up and up… you reach a plateau… then you go hell for leather through the floor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, DJ_Villain said: With the Lerner-coaster… Takes you up and up and up… you reach a plateau… then you go hell for leather through the floor 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, sne said: Hahaha! That’s perfect! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Good to see the supporters trust coming out against Socios. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 We badly need the facility to fill a pint of beer from the bottom of the glass. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 It's all quite simple really... difficult but simple... To get hold of the lucrative sponsorship deals, the top shirt sponsorships, and the partnerships to all types of businesses; you have to be able to offer something back to them. The reason the top teams in England have these deals is because they are on the biggest stage, Champions League football and being watched by millions each week in the Premier League. Success brings with it sponsorship, and sponsorship brings with it money. For us to increase our commercial revenue we have to improve on the pitch; and it's something that won't happen in one season. We are on the right path, and we will continue on this path under our owners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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