JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, thabucks said: Obvious name which fits perfectly for a stadium sponsor is Wes Eden’s Fortress Fund - Fortress Villa Park … Then get TNF to sponsor the north stand - The North Face Stand … Looking at the value of Arsenals agreement with Emirates which works out to be £15mill+ per annum. If we could sign a long term deal with the right partner, then surely Villa Park should be worth at least £7.5+ mill per season - would it worth selling our soul for half a Matty Cash ? " Fortress Villa Park " would be epic to be fair. We'd then need to make it a Fortress. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 20, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: which half? The centre half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: which half? Right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Whilst an extra 10K fans would be great for revenue I wonder how much it would help the atmosphere. I also think we need a guy with a megaphone singing throughout the game. A few drums too. Sorry, one for the atmosphere thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted October 20, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, blandy said: The point is that they are not claiming the rules are illegitimate, or invalid. They claim that they didn't breach the rules, whereas the authorities claim they did breach the rules. But they are not disputing the rules have legitimacy and should be abided by. From the outside, the appearance to me is that they may well have breached them and may well have done so knowingly and deliberately on order to "catch up" with the financial clout of other (then) more established top level clubs. But the courts will decide and City have very good and very expensive lawyers. Edit - and to stay on topic, increasing commercial revenue via sponsorship or naming rights and so on - it needs to be done at fair market rates and this is the thing that clubs like Villa basically have to abide by, whereas hypothetically, clubs like Newcastle and PSG and Man City which are essentially owned by states could abuse that situation via the huge resources of those states, further slanting the playing field. They may be putting forward a narrative, but doesn’t mean we buy into it. They knew exactly what they were doing in seeking an advantage over other clubs. The PL can put as many rules in as possible around commercial revenue, but has no teeth when they have to rely on whistleblowers for evidence of improper acts and clubs like City have no interest in accepting their penance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 20, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, QldVilla said: They may be putting forward a narrative, but doesn’t mean we buy into it. They knew exactly what they were doing in seeking an advantage over other clubs. The PL can put as many rules in as possible around commercial revenue, but has no teeth when they have to rely on whistleblowers for evidence of improper acts and clubs like City have no interest in accepting their penance. Yeah, that I do agree with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 20 hours ago, Peter Griffin said: I would too but that would only apply to the generation that grew up with it at Villa Park. I still refer to Whitehart Lane, Highbury and St Mary's etc and I always will, even though WHL and Highbury are physically different stadiums at a different location. However, young supporters will no doubt call it The Emirates Talking of Spurs, I said a few times that I can't understand how they still haven't sold the naming rights to the new ground but then watching the Joshua fight the amount of times the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium got said in the broadcast, it promotes the club name all around the world. Throw in the NFL matches where Tottenham Hotspur Stadium gets mentioned too, it may be more beneficial than getting a random sponsor for it, unless it is ridiculous money. If NSWE to manage to get a Vegas Villans team in the MLS the connection with the name Villa Park may be a better promotional tool in the US than if we sold the rights to its name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 7 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: " Fortress Villa Park " would be epic to be fair. We'd then need to make it a Fortress. I do cringe at names like that because you’re setting yourself up for failure or ridicule. Man U’s Theatre of Dreams for example when things are going wrong. I heard somebody say ‘Garden of Eden’ as well. I hope we don’t but I assume we will have a name at some point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2021 Fortress own Majestic wines. How about Majestic Villa Park? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 14 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: Talking of Spurs, I said a few times that I can't understand how they still haven't sold the naming rights to the new ground but then watching the Joshua fight the amount of times the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium got said in the broadcast, it promotes the club name all around the world. Throw in the NFL matches where Tottenham Hotspur Stadium gets mentioned too, it may be more beneficial than getting a random sponsor for it, unless it is ridiculous money. If NSWE to manage to get a Vegas Villans team in the MLS the connection with the name Villa Park may be a better promotional tool in the US than if we sold the rights to its name. googled it a little and saw the news story that "spurs are holding out for the biggest stadium naming rights deal in history" yeah that sounds about right, to be fair same as us or anyone else you wait and see what the saudis do to the market value now west ham too, there was a rumour a few years ago that as part of their absolutely not corrupt tenancy agreement they would get the money should they land a sponsorship deal but again its a mixture of them wanting too much money and they are happily promoting themselves as London FC so playing at the London Stadium helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 The Coutinho and Digne (presumed) will hopefully create buzz amongst our current and prospective commercial partners. After all of this, it would really be a let down if our kit supplier ended up being Castore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, nepal_villan said: The Coutinho and Digne (presumed) will hopefully create buzz amongst our current and prospective commercial partners. After all of this, it would really be a let down if our kit supplier ended up being Castore. I’ve been repeatedly wrong about the clubs decisions but I really can’t see it being Castore unless they’re giving us a LOT of money. At the end of the day, as much as I personally have a really visceral negative reaction to the brand, if they’re paying us the most then fine. As much as I’d love us to have kits like the Venezia ones, or be a top tier Nike club (because that’s my kinda vibe) I don’t really give a shit what the players are wearing as long as it’s not so bad it reflects negatively on our brand. Edited January 10, 2022 by a m ole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Surely Adidas will be interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 10, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 10, 2022 I have a feeling our kit deal for next year will already have been done - I'm sure I remember @NurembergVillan saying that there's quite a long lead in for a new kit manufacturer so that they can set up production and distribution or something like that. Although that could just be something that's happening in my head, like the penguins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I have a feeling our kit deal for next year will already have been done - I'm sure I remember @NurembergVillan saying that there's quite a long lead in for a new kit manufacturer so that they can set up production and distribution or something like that. It could just something that's happening in my head though, like the penguins. Surely they have existing kit facilities that is easy to utilise. I'd say we've not yet agreed new sponsor but it'll be in the coming months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Q: how do we Increase commercial revenue? A: Sign more players like Coutinho 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 10, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, CVByrne said: Surely they have existing kit facilities that is easy to utilise. I'd say we've not yet agreed new sponsor but it'll be in the coming months. I'm sure I remember Nicola Ibbotson saying that these deals are often negotiated twelve months in advance - I could be completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, Made In Aston said: Q: how do we Increase commercial revenue? A: Sign more players like Coutinho Bring back Samatta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted January 10, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I have a feeling our kit deal for next year will already have been done - I'm sure I remember @NurembergVillan saying that there's quite a long lead in for a new kit manufacturer so that they can set up production and distribution or something like that. Although that could just be something that's happening in my head, like the penguins. It should be done by now, definitely. Most brands will have started designing next season's kits about a year ago. The lead times are enormous because of the approval process and the quantities involved. If we're still with Fanatics and any new "brand" is simply a logo application as per a sponsor (and I believe that to be the case with Wolves/Castore this year) then it becomes easier. Even then, that Wolves deal must've been prepped in advance because the designs are still Castore's template. 19 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Surely they have existing kit facilities that is easy to utilise. I'd say we've not yet agreed new sponsor but it'll be in the coming months. Very, very few brands have their own factories and even if they did the big challenge on a short lead-time would be capacity. Say Villa sell 150k shirts per year - there aren't factories sitting around with a 150k hole in their production plan hoping someone will come along at the last minute to fill it. Even if there were, depending on the size of the factory, that's not a quick job. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I have a feeling our kit deal for next year will already have been done - I'm sure I remember @NurembergVillan saying that there's quite a long lead in for a new kit manufacturer so that they can set up production and distribution or something like that. Although that could just be something that's happening in my head, like the penguins. It’s highly likely yeah, I don’t know about the kit industry specifically but design, manufacture and sign off in other clothing industries is typically 6-12 months edit; I didn’t see the actual expert had posted 3 hours ago Edited January 10, 2022 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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