Danny Ings

[dont_do_it_doug.]

3 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said:

Grealish U Turn incoming. Told he will only make Villa bench now though 

I'm hearing Villa Talk don't want him, too injury prone. 

[Eidolon]

Wasn't expecting to wake up to that! Brilliant signing

[Lerner's Driver]

4 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said:

Villa sign a 1 in 2 Premier League striker.

Villa Talk: Ooh I dunno, £30m, he's "pushing 30" and he's injury prone, lot of money for a backup, where will he fit in? Nah not for me. 

Absolutely brilliant. Probably our finest hour. 

TBF it's not Villa Talk, it's one or two blokes pissing in the wind. Ignore.

[Aston_Villan4]

2 minutes ago, DCJonah said:

Ings got 20 premier league goals 2 years ago. 

We've never had a player do that. 

And some are not happy with this?

We have one of the best strikers in the league just joined us. 

Wesley and Keinan Davis were getting minutes these last two years. We had El Ghazi play games up front, we had to sign Samatta. 

And now we have Danny **** Ings leading the line. 

 

I feel like the people who wanted Tammy are really the ones unsure of the move. lol

[villa4europe]

Just now, Delphinho123 said:

How long is the Ings contract? 

3 years so takes him up to 32

You would guess that we've gone in to this eyes open and know he has no resale value, he plugs a gap, 3 years time we move him on and hopefully put Barry in there 

That's another reason why I think it's a better signing than Tammy, Ings will naturally drop off and be moved on just in time for our yoof to come through, he shouldn't block them 

[MotoMkali]

36 minutes ago, messi11 said:

Good signing. The next one will surprise you even more  

OK Micah

[AV82]

Just now, villa4europe said:

3 years so takes him up to 32

You would guess that we've gone in to this eyes open and know he has no resale value, he plugs a gap, 3 years time we move him on and hopefully put Barry in there 

That's another reason why I think it's a better signing than Tammy, Ings will naturally drop off and be moved on just in time for our yoof to come through, he shouldn't block them 

Apparently we have the option of a 4th year.

[villa4europe]

Just now, AV82 said:

Apparently we have the option of a 4th year.

Makes even more sense 

[Davkaus]

9 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

Ings played 33 games last season and 42 the season before. I think the injury concerns might be slightly overstated.

I looked a bit more into this

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/danny-ings/verletzungen/spieler/134294

Season	Injury	from	until	Days	Games missed
20/21	Knock	Jan 6, 2021	Jan 25, 2021	19 days	3
20/21	Hamstring Injury	Dec 20, 2020	Dec 28, 2020	8 days	1
20/21	Knee Injury	Nov 2, 2020	Dec 6, 2020	34 days	3
18/19	Hamstring Injury	Feb 3, 2019	Mar 30, 2019	55 days	6
18/19	Hamstring Injury	Jan 3, 2019	Jan 18, 2019	15 days	3
18/19	Hamstring Injury	Nov 14, 2018	Dec 15, 2018	31 days	5
18/19	Knock	Aug 26, 2018	Aug 31, 2018	5 days	1
16/17	Knee Surgery	Oct 26, 2016	Aug 10, 2017	288 days	35
15/16	Cruciate Ligament Rupture	Oct 15, 2015	May 12, 2016	210 days	50
14/15	Hamstring Injury	Sep 15, 2014	Oct 16, 2014	31 days	3
13/14	Torn ankle ligament	Mar 13, 2014	Apr 7, 2014	25 days

 

In the last few years, the only concerning thing in my opinion is that glut of hamstring injuries in 18/19, and looking at the dates, it looks very much like him being rushed back and it being a single injury he didn't properly recover from, though that's a guess on my part. Other than that you''re going back to 2016 for him having a serious injury

Edited August 4, 2021 by Davkaus

[KentVillan]

Now I’ve had a chance to take my heart medication, and find a hitman on the dark web, some thoughts on Ings.

Basically it’s a great signing. It gives us the 4-4-2 option which I think Shakespeare is quite keen on (based on Leicester days) and will have persuaded Smith that we need - eg if chasing games.

But I also have a suspicion that Smith might fancy a Klopp style 4-3-3 with two wide strikers - Bailey and Watkins buzzing around the channels, and Ings as the centre forward.

Bailey is much more of a striker than Grealish, Traore, El Ghazi, etc so this might work.

And then finally Smith likes having direct competition for places - not one clear starter and one clear backup. So Smith will fancy pitting the two players against each other and letting them win their place.

£30m is pennies really for a proven PL goalscorer, and at 29 he still has a few seasons left in the tank. We won’t make a profit on him, but he’s ready to go right now, and help us push for Europe.

Quality work by the club. 

[MotoMkali]

26 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said:

Guys, Danny Ings is not coming here to sit on the bench in case Watkins finally breaks. So we need to wipe that from our thoughts. 

My guess is Watkins will be on the left defensively but with license to work the channels, push inside and drop deep whenever he fancies it. With his skillset, he can be trusted to get back into position and do the donkey work when required. He will still be on for 15+ goals as an inside forward. 

When it was mooted for Tammy, as much as I love him as a man I was less enthusiastic about his ability. Ings is the level of forward you make that 'compromise' for though. The pair of them can cover for one another too, as Ings is not shy when it comes to hard work. The pressing and movement laterally, between and beyond the defensive lines from the two of them combined with the blistering pace of Bailey will be very exciting indeed. Noted that Ings is no slouch either. 

Buendia is going to have a **** field day. 

I think Ings is coming here to preserve his career. If he goes to somewhere where he is the no 1 he'll be playing 40 games a season and he knows his body won't be able to handle that. We could probably get away with playing him about 2000 minutes this season and if he's 100% he'll be firing on all cylinders. 

[skarroki]

This signing is brilliant, I've loved Ings last 2 seasons, the things he does up front are outrageous. He's a fantastic player. 

My only gripe is I will now be drawing and then binning our new line up several times a day until the Watford game. Until I know what Dean's plan is my head will feel like it's going to fall off whenever I think of our squad depth now. 

[hippo]

Smith says he will be role model. I'm sensing the plan is that towards the end of the 3 years - Louie Barry will be close to stepping up.

Edited August 4, 2021 by hippo

[Kiwivillan]

4 minutes ago, Eidolon said:

Wasn't expecting to wake up to that! Brilliant signing

Same. Had a great sleep last night as well not waking up in middle of night checking my phone for Grealish news

[HKP90]

4 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

Traore needs consistency and then he'll be a good player, the price we paid for him suggests that consistency might never come but he's good enough to start 20 games in all comps and be 1st choice sub 

He's a bizarre player but he's not a lost cause, hopefully the challenge he now has will spark something in him

We've a squad now, though. Talk about an impact sub.

Traore's so unpredictable even his legs don't know what he's going to do half the time. Imagine you're a full back who's been marking Bailey for 75 minutes, and then Traore comes on fresh. 

[MotoMkali]

20 minutes ago, Zatman said:

quite classy comments from Hassnhuttl, not all managers would be so humble

 

Somebody tell deano that managers can know what is going on behind the scenes. 

[villa4europe]

1 minute ago, hippo said:

Smith says he will be role model. I'm sending the plan is that towards the end of the 3 years - Louie Barry will be close to stepping up.

That's exactly how I see it too, ings plugs a gap until Barry is ready, which with the quality of ings and then the time we've afforded ourselves in that context it's a great move for us 

[Villatillidie95]

Lets not underestimate how much Watkins can learn off this guy. You don't get to be one of the top goalscorers in the premier league season after season without having something about you. If you want an elder statesman as part of your squad, this guy is not a bad bet at all

[ciggiesnbeer]

6 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

I looked a bit more into this

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/danny-ings/verletzungen/spieler/134294

Season	Injury	from	until	Days	Games missed
20/21	Knock	Jan 6, 2021	Jan 25, 2021	19 days	3
20/21	Hamstring Injury	Dec 20, 2020	Dec 28, 2020	8 days	1
20/21	Knee Injury	Nov 2, 2020	Dec 6, 2020	34 days	3
18/19	Hamstring Injury	Feb 3, 2019	Mar 30, 2019	55 days	6
18/19	Hamstring Injury	Jan 3, 2019	Jan 18, 2019	15 days	3
18/19	Hamstring Injury	Nov 14, 2018	Dec 15, 2018	31 days	5
18/19	Knock	Aug 26, 2018	Aug 31, 2018	5 days	1
16/17	Knee Surgery	Oct 26, 2016	Aug 10, 2017	288 days	35
15/16	Cruciate Ligament Rupture	Oct 15, 2015	May 12, 2016	210 days	50
14/15	Hamstring Injury	Sep 15, 2014	Oct 16, 2014	31 days	3
13/14	Torn ankle ligament	Mar 13, 2014	Apr 7, 2014	25 days

 

In the last few years, the only concerning thing in my opinion is that glut of hamstring injuries in 18/19, and looking at the dates, it looks very much like him being rushed back and it being a single injury he didn't properly recover from, though that's a guess on my part. Other than that you''re going back to 2016 for him having a serious injury

Grealish's injury record for the curious. 

I cant get the data table to post nicely  like @Davkaus  

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jack-grealish/verletzungen/spieler/203460


We maybe about to get 100M for this player. Cant say its all bad.

Edited August 4, 2021 by ciggiesnbeer

[Vive_La_Villa]

13 minutes ago, MaVilla said:

and his general play, looking at him, his intricate play and general skill level is very underrated.

Indeed mate. Very good dribbler too.