Popular Post Rds1983 Posted July 19, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, sne said: I you just lie there sure, if you're boinking a gymnast I expect some acrobatics and movement and that's when it all falls down apparently I'm nearly 40 and bonking a gymnast, of course I'm just going to lie there hoping I don't have a heart attack. Edited July 19, 2021 by Rds1983 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 19, 2021 I love the Olympics. And I love that GB are very very **** good at it these days! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, Stevo985 said: I love the Olympics. And I love that GB are very very **** good at it these days! Aren't we supposed to do quite badly this year though, at least by recent standards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, HanoiVillan said: Aren't we supposed to do quite badly this year though, at least by recent standards? Yeah I don't think it will be as good as recent games. Which is understandable. We were 2nd in the medal table in 2016. That's insane for a country of our size beating Russia and China in the same olympics But yeah not expecting the same kind of results this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 Things continuing to go well during the run-up to the games. Quote TOKYO OLYMPICS OPENING CEREMONY Composer Quits ...HE BRAGGED ABOUT MAKING DISABLED BOY EAT FECES Keigo Oyamada -- one of the composers for the opening ceremony -- has pulled out ... following claims he bullied a disabled classmate. Even worse -- he made the claims himself ... in interviews back in the 1990s. It's truly disturbing, but Oyamada -- now 52 years old -- once bragged to local news media that he forced a disabled boy to masturbate in front of others and eat his own feces. https://www.tmz.com/2021/07/19/tokyo-olympics-composer-quits-apologizes-made-disabled-boy-eat-feces-bullying/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, sne said: Things continuing to go well during the run-up to the games. https://www.tmz.com/2021/07/19/tokyo-olympics-composer-quits-apologizes-made-disabled-boy-eat-feces-bullying/ That's pretty much bog-standard porn over there 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chindie Posted July 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 19, 2021 Slip Usain Bolt a few grand to run behind the sprint events coughing and watch the records tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) How do we as humanity as a whole, continually set new world records? I'm mostly referring to track, but I suppose you could include any discipline (although there's only been one field world record set in the last ten years!). Is it entirely down to better tracks, better equipment, better training, better understanding of the human body, better nutrition and so on? Can some people simply run faster now than they otherwise would have been able to if they were born 50 or a 100 years later? If this is true, why hasn't the mens 800m record been beaten for ~30 years? Is this simply an indication that the competitior had an unfair advantage that hasn't yet been proven? How about the suggestion that all pre 2005 records are wiped? There appear to be some genuine examples of actual super human feats which weren't performed by alleged, but never proven, drug cheats - Stefka Kostadinova who has held the women's high jump record for 34 years is a good example, perhaps. Is there a ceiling for disciplines? At some point no one will ever be able to run 100m FASTER than X, surely? What purpose would we have to evolve to run any faster than we can? You'd expect the opposite to be true if anything, we'd evolve to slow down. How close are we to getting to that point? Edited July 20, 2021 by hogso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, hogso said: How do we as humanity as a whole, continually set new world records? I'm mostly referring to track, but I suppose you could include any discipline (although there's only been one field world record set in the last ten years!). Is it entirely down to better tracks, better equipment, better training, better understanding of the human body, better nutrition and so on? Can some people simply run faster now than they otherwise would have been able to if they were born 50 or a 100 years later? If this is true, why hasn't the mens 800m record been beaten for ~30 years? Is this simply an indication that the competitior had an unfair advantage that hasn't yet been proven? How about the suggestion that all pre 2005 records are wiped? There appear to be some genuine examples of actual super human feats which weren't performed by alleged, but never proven, drug cheats - Stefka Kostadinova who has held the women's high jump record for 34 years is a good example, perhaps. Is there a ceiling for disciplines? At some point no one will ever be able to run 100m FASTER than X, surely? What purpose would we have to evolve to run any faster than we can? You'd expect the opposite to be true if anything, we'd evolve to slow down. How close are we to getting to that point? sports ergonomics... im sure the GB swimmer from stoke way, i want to say his name is Adam something and he does butterfly, owns something like 9 of the 10 fastest times ever recorded in his event, he's a world record breaking machine, not a clue how stuff like that happens if he's just a freak athlete, it cant be down to the goggles or his shorts or even the technology of the pool construction (which has improved) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: sports ergonomics... im sure the GB swimmer from stoke way, i want to say his name is Adam something and he does butterfly, owns something like 9 of the 10 fastest times ever recorded in his event, he's a world record breaking machine, not a clue how stuff like that happens if he's just a freak athlete, it cant be down to the goggles or his shorts or even the technology of the pool construction (which has improved) Adam Peaty, from Uttoxeter. He is superhuman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: sports ergonomics... im sure the GB swimmer from stoke way, i want to say his name is Adam something and he does butterfly, owns something like 9 of the 10 fastest times ever recorded in his event, he's a world record breaking machine, not a clue how stuff like that happens if he's just a freak athlete, it cant be down to the goggles or his shorts or even the technology of the pool construction (which has improved) As it happens, I saw an interview with him just yesterday. He said he would rather die than come second. He seemed sincere, which was odd, seeing as the backdrop to the interview was his young family moving in to a new home. Certainly wired different, that's for sure. If there's not a physical edge which he has hoaned better than anyone in history, whilst simultaneously having the perfect body shape and being fortunate enough to find his discipline, then it must be down to his mind. And there's only so much that can be taught and trained when it comes to that. What ever the reason, there is no doubt he is the greatest of all time in the discipline of men's breaststroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 im sure this has been raised in the things you often wonder thread - how do you find out that your body is perfectly engineered for the sprint distance breaststroke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, villa4europe said: sports ergonomics... im sure the GB swimmer from stoke way, i want to say his name is Adam something and he does butterfly, owns something like 9 of the 10 fastest times ever recorded in his event, he's a world record breaking machine, not a clue how stuff like that happens if he's just a freak athlete, it cant be down to the goggles or his shorts or even the technology of the pool construction (which has improved) Peaty is a breaststroke specialist (cue Kenneth...) rather than butterfly, but yeah - he's the only person to have gone sub 58secs in the 100m and also maybe sub 25secs or something in 50m. He seems to be more 'stacked' than a lot of swimmers too, not sure if this helps alongside a great technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: im sure this has been raised in the things you often wonder thread - how do you find out that your body is perfectly engineered for the sprint distance breaststroke? There's that young(ish) American female swimmer who has smashed all world records at 400m, 800m and 1,500m in... maybe freestyle or something. I don't understand how you can be dominant across such varying distances! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 These new carbon plate spring NIKE shoes means that pretty much ever track and field record in running will be broken this summer, likely even the Usain Bolt ones. It's a joke and makes it a whole different sport but it is what it is. Anyone not wearing NIKE shoes this summer will have a crippling disadvantage. The competing brands are no where near because it's only NIKE that have made shoes that break the rules. Sadly they are getting away with it and It would be fun to hear how much they are spending on bribes and lobbying to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, hogso said: If this is true, why hasn't the mens 800m record been beaten for ~30 years? Is this simply an indication that the competitior had an unfair advantage that hasn't yet been proven? How about the suggestion that all pre 2005 records are wiped? There appear to be some genuine examples of actual super human feats which weren't performed by alleged, but never proven, drug cheats - Stefka Kostadinova who has held the women's high jump record for 34 years is a good example, perhaps. The answer to 'did this competitor from eastern Europe have an unfair advantage 34 years ago' is surely 'definitely, 100% yes' isn't it. I can't think of any reason to doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: The answer to 'did this competitor from eastern Europe have an unfair advantage 34 years ago' is surely 'definitely, 100% yes' isn't it. I can't think of any reason to doubt it. Fwiw the US, Finnish, Italian (some Swedes) and so on athletes were just as pumped up on steroids. Just not as crude ones. Edited July 20, 2021 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Just now, sne said: Fwiw the US, Finish, Italian (some Swedes) and so on athletes were just as pumped up on steroids. Just not as crude ones. Yes, I'm sure doping was absolutely rife across the world, but the former Soviet countries do seem to have been better at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Looking foreward to some of the events, Soccer,Weight lifting,high jump,pole vault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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