Dave-R Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 7 hours ago, thabucks said: The crux of it for me is that I don’t believe Tammy to be more than a £25 mill striker, and who appears to be the type of player who needs regular game time to be at his most effective. If we had any doubts over Watkins class then I’d understand. As he has proven himself to be more than capable in this league and imo Tammy isn’t the sort of player you bring is as a back up option he needs to be the main man. I’m not advertise to us to spending £30/£40 mill on the right striker - I just don’t see how Tammy fits into that discussion myself for a multitude of reasons previously discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) I think we all agree that Tammy would be good addition and we all would like to see him here. The problem is that we have more pressing issues to address in other positions and simply can't spend another £40mil plus big wages on a striker. We already invested over £50mil on strikers in watkins and Wesley. Money is being spent and will be spend on midfield, wings and defensive cover. Edited July 16, 2021 by Czarnikjak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OLDVILLAIN Posted July 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2021 I dont want tammy and i dont believe we were ever in for him 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Czarnikjak said: I think we all agree that Tammy would be great addition and we all would like to see him here. The problem is that we have more pressing issues to address in other positions and simply can't spend another £40mil plus big wages on a striker. We already invested over £50mil on strikers in watkins and Wesley. Money is being spent and will be spend on midfield, wings and defensive cover. Would Trade Wesley and Davis for Tammy, who up for that move? Now I understand that Wesley deserves another shot but some seem to be resting a whole next season and idea on him somehow being a competitive player to Watkins. I can appreciate the love for Wesley and like the guy myself but we have to be realistic that were now taking it up a notch and if players can't keep rolling with the direction of the club, then they should be moved on. It's upto the players to prove that they can bang with the best, have to keep up or fall off at this league level. It should be in the clubs best interest to reabilitate Wesley, after all he did cost 22 mill didnt he? Hopefully they are seeing enough positive signs from him recently. However he's already been paid for and I can't see him making a big impact this season, maybe next or after.yet we shouldn't be resting a whole season on maybes especially when a striker like Tammy is up for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, OLDVILLAIN said: I dont want tammy and i dont believe we were ever in for him May not of been in for him, who knows it's all media horsecrap till something realistic floats on through. However I'm surprised you don't want Tammy here, how could you not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, Dave-R said: Would Trade Wesley and Davis for Tammy, who up for that move? Now I understand that Wesley deserves another shot but some seem to be resting a whole next season and idea on him somehow being a competitive player to Watkins. I can appreciate the love for Wesley and like the guy myself but we have to be realistic that were now taking it up a notch and if players can't keep rolling with the direction of the club, then they should be moved on. It's upto the players to prove that they can bang with the best, have to keep up or fall off at this league level. It should be in the clubs best interest to reabilitate Wesley, after all he did cost 22 mill didnt he? Hopefully they are seeing enough positive signs from him recently. However he's already been paid for and I can't see him making a big impact this season, maybe next or after.yet we shouldn't be resting a whole season on maybes especially when a striker like Tammy is up for sale. Lol, we would all trade Wesley and Davis for Tammy...problem is nobody will take Wesley off us until he proves his fitness again. Davis is worth 3 quid and Josh onomah. You are right, it is a gamble to rely on Wesley as a backup to Watkins, but we have Taken a calculated risk on it. Spending £40 mil on another striker and thus not being able to reinforce wings/midfield sufficiently looks like a bigger risk to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) Tammy wont ever come to villa to sit on the bench..and with the team setup the way it is he would be 2nd fiddle to ollie watkins. Its risky i believe to rely on wes this season..the worst acl injury the club physios had ever seen i think they said. I hope wes does miraciously come back fitter and stronger but that is yet to be seen. I think by not getting a striker in and if we do not loan davis to the championship the whole situation will come to bite us in the proverbials. Edited July 16, 2021 by OLDVILLAIN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Giroud off to Milan. Maybe Tammy stays at Chelsea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 7 hours ago, maqroll said: Giroud off to Milan. Maybe Tammy stays at Chelsea? Tammy will come here if the chiefs will it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Chelsea fans says he is awkward on the ball. I think people on here are being overly romantic. He just isn't that good of a player. If he were Tuchel wouldn't want to get rid of him. Certainly not a 40 M player. Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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allani Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 11 hours ago, Czarnikjak said: Lol, we would all trade Wesley and Davis for Tammy...problem is nobody will take Wesley off us until he proves his fitness again. Davis is worth 3 quid and Josh onomah. You are right, it is a gamble to rely on Wesley as a backup to Watkins, but we have Taken a calculated risk on it. Spending £40 mil on another striker and thus not being able to reinforce wings/midfield sufficiently looks like a bigger risk to me. But surely we have Jack and Emi in the wide attacking forward positions this season coming? So who are we going to get in to strengthen those positions (especially as we have Bertie on the bench)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, allani said: But surely we have Jack and Emi in the wide attacking forward positions this season coming? So who are we going to get in to strengthen those positions (especially as we have Bertie on the bench)... Don't know who we end up getting but Dwight Mcneil is a potential target, Smith rates him highly apparently (i am not convinced by him but I will trust our scouting). I think what will transpire is that if we get upgrade at LW, Jack will play in the middle. And if we get upgrade at CAM ( like we tried and failed with ESR) Jack will play LW. Just depends who we can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Chelsea fans says he is deceptively good on the ball, hanging off the last defender and scores some vital goals. I think people on here are being overly romantic on Ollie and need to understand it's a squad game and we need two quality strikers competing. He's just that good of a player. Tuchel has been totally unfair to him as many Chelsea fans have said and they wouldn't want to get rid of Tammy but understand he's better than how Tuchel is treating him. Certainly great value at around 40m. Not a chance he'll stay at Chelsea so bring him home to Villa. FTFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: Chelsea fans says he is awkward on the ball. I think people on here are being overly romantic. He just isn't that good of a player. If he were Tuchel wouldn't want to get rid of him. Certainly not a 40 M player. Not a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 42 minutes ago, nick76 said: FTFY To much of In regards to Tammy Nick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 43 minutes ago, Dave-R said: To much of In regards to Tammy Nick. Yep a lot of… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Just now, nick76 said: Yep a lot of… That much its polluting to our seas, i think there's an official pipeline set up for some of these VT users, poor Fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 A lot of people in the game don’t seem to rate him for some reason, be it Tuchel, Chelsea fans or fans of other clubs. In my opinion, he’s a fantastic centre forward who is not even near peak age for a footballer. Every striker in the history of the game has missed chances, it’s how they bounce back from those misses that defines them as a player. For me, Abraham is a great player who will only get better over the coming years. We’d be silly to pass on the opportunity to sign him. In my opinion, it’d be another Emiliano Martinez situation, where a top club thinks that a player isn’t good enough for them and we take advantage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: We’d be silly to pass on the opportunity to sign him This ignores the fact that by all accounts, he's not for sale, we're not interested, and Watkins is main striker in Smith setup who has rarely played 2 strikers in his managerial career. Lock this thread already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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