Kiwivillan Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: I'm still not convinced we're in for Tammy if honest, as I think it's an easy link for the papers to make. I think I've done that point to death not to mention we absolutely wouldn't guarantee him a starting spot even if he did want to come here which I don't even think he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 For me, if Edouard is available for £15-20M and Tammy at £40m I'd much rather go for the former. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Wainy316 said: For me, if Edouard is available for £15-20M and Tammy at £40m I'd much rather go for the former. Edouard has been cack recently even Celtic fans have been saying so. Rogers even passed on him. No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: I think I've done that point to death not to mention we absolutely wouldn't guarantee him a starting spot even if he did want to come here which I don't even think he does Of course it would Guarantee him a starting spot, there is no reason why both Watkins and Tammy can't have an equal amount of starts. It's unfair playing a striker at that level all season, it really is. 38 games is a bloody body destroying long time and someone like Tammy coming in helps Watkins out because Smith would feel he coul trust Tammy to do the job with Watkins. Tammy would love to come back I reckon if the package was right then he'd be on his way. If Tammy was Guaranteed half a season of starts similar to Watkins its way more than he'd be getting at any other top team anyway as they would have him as a rotational player. Even at 19 roughly games a season that's still alot of starts in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 17 hours ago, M_Afro said: Tammy is a striker for a team who dominate the ball. He does not suit the way that we play. I would be amazed if we are interested and also very disappointed. If Jack does go we would be better off signing 2 top quality central midfield players and 1 top quality versatile forward who can play across the line. Add in a back up gk and ch and we are cooked. This season we will dominate more of the ball so get Tammy in is correct. Jack's not going that I have not fear over him leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, M_Afro said: Double post Edited August 4, 2021 by Dave-R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave-R said: there is no reason why both Watkins and Tammy can't have an equal amount of starts. It's unfair playing a striker at that level all season, it really is. Load of rubbish. Kane plays every game when fit. So do strikers for loads of clubs. Vardy would play every game if Watkins age. What's the split 19/19? This is just silly argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I am thinking Ian Ormondroyd upgrade on the left of attack forTammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, M_Afro said: Triple post Edited August 4, 2021 by Dave-R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Dave-R said: Of course it would Guarantee him a starting spot, there is no reason why both Watkins and Tammy can't have an equal amount of starts. It's unfair playing a striker at that level all season, it really is. 38 games is a bloody body destroying long time and someone like Tammy coming in helps Watkins out because Smith would feel he coul trust Tammy to do the job with Watkins. Tammy would love to come back I reckon if the package was right then he'd be on his way. If Tammy was Guaranteed half a season of starts similar to Watkins its way more than he'd be getting at any other top team anyway as they would have him as a rotational player. Even at 19 roughly games a season that's still alot of starts in a season. I just cannot agree with this I’m afraid Dave. Ollie Watkins is one of the first names on the team sheet for me, even if he goes 10 games without a goal. His pressing and all around play completely changed our attack last season. You say 38 games as if that is treacherous, without European football it’s basically 1 game per week as he is unlikely to feature in any early cup rounds. I appreciate the need to have a capable backup for him, but if we were to do what you propose then I think we would end up with both Ollie and Tammy unhappy with their game time, as I feel that Tammy will go somewhere to play. Edited August 4, 2021 by Woody1000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Load of rubbish. Kane plays every game when fit. So do strikers for loads of clubs. Vardy would play every game if Watkins age. What's the split 19/19? This is just silly argument. Yeah they may do but we may do things abit different like some other clubs do rotating players. It's only a stupid arguement because your always think you right and you never listen or take in anything anybody says. I don't think once In this Tammy thread you have agreed with anything that's been positive from someone who would like Tammy back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingzen Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Load of rubbish. Kane plays every game when fit. So do strikers for loads of clubs. Vardy would play every game if Watkins age. What's the split 19/19? This is just silly argument. Yep... also Smith likes consistency in team selection, and more importantly, Watkins is integral to the way we play, pressing from the front when we don't have ball, and running in behind and making quick transitions up the pitch, when we get possession. That's not Abraham's forte. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Just now, Woody1000 said: I just cannot agree with this I’m afraid Dave. Ollie Watkins is one of the first names on the team sheet for me, even if he goes 10 games without a goal. His pressing and all around play completely changed our attack last season. You say 38 games as if that is treacherous, without European football it’s basically 1 game per week as he is unlikely to feature in any early cup rounds, I appreciate the need to have a capable backup for him, but if we were to do what you propose then I think we would end up with both Ollie and Tammy unhappy with their game time, as I feel that Tammy will go somewhere to play. For a start if Ollie goes 10 games without goal he should be changed for Tammy as Tammy can do good pressing also like what Watkins does, there games are similar in that sense. While I'll understand your concerns over game time I should imagine if Tammy were brought into the club that something in a compromise between Ollie and Tammy would need to take place. For all we know both may be happy with such a situation, we just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dave-R said: For a start if Ollie goes 10 games without goal he should be changed for Tammy as Tammy can do good pressing also like what Watkins does, there games are similar in that sense. While I'll understand your concerns over game time I should imagine if Tammy were brought into the club that something in a compromise between Ollie and Tammy would need to take place. For all we know both may be happy with such a situation, we just don't know. Again Dave, I have to disagree mate. It’s obviously just my opinion, but when it comes to all around play Tammy isn’t as good as Ollie. In a perfect world, I would love to bring Tammy back to the club, but he would be Ollie’s understudy - it wouldn’t be a job share. The last bit of your post that I highlighted, couldn’t that be used to argue absolutely anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I love Ollie but could he become complacent if he feels he is undroppable? We need to offer him competition at a similar level to keep the competition for places and keep players striving to perform. I still don’t know why we can’t play both up top. I still don’t understand why people think £40m is too much. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 We have one good striker, and we fancy ourselves for Europe? Pay the dollar and get him in. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Not too many teams do well in europe with only 1 striker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, PussEKatt said: Not too many teams do well in europe with only 1 striker Except West Ham. Who will probably win it because they have Antonio (a failed right back) playing up front. Which is the model that all teams need to adopt in order to be successful because that is modern football and no other approach can possibly work. Edited August 4, 2021 by allani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, allani said: Except West Ham. Who will probably win it because they have Antonio (a failed right back) playing up front. Which is the model that all teams need to adopt in order to be successful because that is modern football and no other approach can possibly work. Traore and Bailey can fill in If it comes to it. I'm not too concerned. Edited August 4, 2021 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Just now, villalad21 said: Traore and Bailey can fill in I fit comes to it. I'm not too concerned. When the **** did Traore and Bailey sign for West Ham??? **** you go and put the kettle on and when you get back the whole squad has left....!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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