stewiek2 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Hard luck, former Wigan Athletic manager Roberto Martinez. Once again the bridesmaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Villa87 said: I’ve never really got the hype about Belgium. Beyond KDB they are fairly average. Man for man England have much the better squad. Shame about the tactics! KDB and I think Lukaku are great players, the rest of the squad seems rather average in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted July 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 2, 2021 Martinez trying to get Benteke on in the 96th minute was amusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 5th loss in 5 years since Martinez took over for Belgium. Missing Hazard and with de Bruine playing injured. Edited July 2, 2021 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Winning mentality. If it was Villa in an important game or Vs someone like Man Utd I'd love it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Re Doku, a great performance and could be a player someone will take a punt on only to find out he’s garbage for 90% of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted July 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, theboyangel said: Re Doku, a great performance and could be a player someone will take a punt on only to find out he’s garbage for 90% of the season. Only 19 I would take that gamble! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, S-Platt said: Only 19 I would take that gamble! He looks a very raw but exciting player - a bit bad of me predicting he’ll be this tournaments Poborsky or El Hadj Djouf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Genie said: Belgium have the players but not the manager. Reminds me of England back in the early 00’s, and now. Definitley For this overrated stuff you have to think for the last 10 years at various points they've had Courtois, mignolet Vermaelen, vertonghen, alderwiereld, kompany, van buyten Witsel, KDB, tielemans, Hazard, mertens, fellaini, dembele, nainggolan Lukaku, Benteke They had the players, they also had 2 terrible managers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Re Doku, a great performance and could be a player someone will take a punt on only to find out he’s garbage for 90% of the season. He's already done the 1st move Unless rennes are another with French football money blues he'd be a £50m+ player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Great game. I am head over heels with this Italy team. I really hope they go all the way. Lorenzo Insigne is the sexiest player in the world not named Jack Grealish. Jorginho looks like a million and Barella is some kind of wizard. Brilliant fun. Chiellini and Bonucci are the last of the truly great old skool central defenders. I hope they never retire. Shame about Spinazzola, though. Hope it’s not as bad as it looked. Forza Italia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Mancini is probably the best coach in the championship and Italy will probably win it. Could have well been this Belgium side last chance to win a trophy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) Got to love this Italy side. 75 minutes of attacking football. 15 minutes of shithousery Edited July 2, 2021 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, MachoFantastico said: KDB and I think Lukaku are great players, the rest of the squad seems rather average in my opinion. Eden Hazard? Lukaku let them down tonight. Doku looks a player. At the end of the day they are a small nation and Martinez has only lost 4 competitive games in his tenure. So he hasnt done that badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Re Doku, a great performance and could be a player someone will take a punt on only to find out he’s garbage for 90% of the season. Rennes already took an educated €25m punt on him last year. He had a really, really good season even thou he didn't score a lot. One of the highest rated wide players in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: Got to love this Italy side. 75 minutes of attacking football. 15 minutes of shithousery dont love the cheating play acting though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted July 2, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Think I've watched, experienced more Italian football than most tbh. If you fancy having this discussion with some Italian friends of mine I'm sure they will tell you that you're wrong in Italian as well, if that makes it easier. I've heard of all of these players. Point is that you don't know what you're talking about. It's about expectations and they aren't the same. It's a more low key side this time compared to back then. Player profiles aren't comperable, neither abroad or domestically. I don't speak Italian but you can bring Marcelo Lippi himself if that'll help. If your point is literally more people in China have heard of Totti over Insigne you're right but I don't get it, how is that relevant? These players aren't known because the league has fallen down the shitter. It doesn't change how good they might be, and they're one of the few teams with an actual manager so expectations should be rightfully high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chine Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, JoshVilla said: Don't get me wrong, this Italy side play some lovely football but the OTT play acting and diving just ruins it for me. It goes beyond "game management". i agree with all of this , I think we all know the modern game involves ‘game management’ but that was awful to watch at times and the ref was tricked by 90% of the nonsense by Italy, although like you said when Italy play football it’s lovely to watch , modern game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Almost 99 % certain England - Italy will be the final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, PaulC said: Eden Hazard? Lukaku let them down tonight. Doku looks a player. At the end of the day they are a small nation and Martinez has only lost 4 competitive games in his tenure. So he hasnt done that badly. Lukaku missed 2 great chances that a striker of his reputation should score even if one was a great block But I think they haven't managed his that well, thought the same in the last round, they're too far off him, don't look to play him in either, I'm not quite sure what Belgium are in attack, Lukaku was like bent in a mcleish team vs Portugal pick the ball up on the half way line and see the 7 defenders he's expected to beat by himself Epitome was going long to him for thr last 20 minutes of this game whilst Benteke sat on the bench 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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