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Ashley Young: Redux


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20 minutes ago, briny_ear said:

Is this Matt Targett of which you speak? Players’ Player of the Season for 2020-1?

Blimey, if he is only a reliable 6-7/10 player, I’m not surprised you are fearful for the rest of the summer because in your mind we must be needing a complete renewal of the squad in every position.

If all our players were consistently " 6 - 7/10 " like Matt Targett, as quoted, over the course of last season we possibly would have finished in Europe comfortably. Lol

Our most consistent performer over the whole term, if anyone was let down, it was HIM!

 

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49 minutes ago, Philosopher said:

No he wasn't. Jack was! Our most improved player yes, most reliable defender yes. Watkins was better than him, Konsa was on par with him.

Targett went from needing to be replaced to undropable. That is certainly fine work. But he is still limited.

Obviously Grealish was but he was missing for 13 games. Out of everyone else Targett was our best player. Us getting Young in as his backup instead of Taylor improves us drastically. Simple as that.

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4 minutes ago, VillanousOne said:

The Italian league is slower and more technical. He needs to still have a bit of pace and quickness or he will get scythed down in seconds every time he gets the ball in the Prem. Hopefully he does.

Oh you wont need to worry about matching pace he can still manage well

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22 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

So we're signing him as a good influence on the training ground? May as well have kept Micah Richards, he was well liked by all accounts. 

We have plenty of good coaches, what we need is good young players, not a 36 year old. 

Don't like this one at all. 

We've just lost our 3 most experienced players. This signing not only replaces two of them but improves on two of them. What's not to like?

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17 minutes ago, DCJonah said:

Yep. The whole notion of loyalty is bullshit, because fans are hypocrites with it. They only want good players to be loyal and they show no loyalty back. 

No one wanted Heskey or Mcleish to be loyal. No one demanded Lansbury remain loyal and fight for his place. 

I'm genuinely stunned there are people dead against this signing.

I actually think Ashley Young showed the club a lot of respect. He gave us some of his best years, never said anything bad about us and only left when the club abandoned its ambition and then he went to Man Utd who where the biggest team in the world at the time.

Personally  I never expect loyalty from players. As football is their job. I don’t expect any normal person to stay in a job, when a bigger company offering more money, benefits, and more promotional opportunities are on the table.

Now a player at a club like Villa with ambition and money, that is developed at the club and is a lifelong fan, living their dream of playing for club they love. Loyalty should not only be expected (to an extent), but the player would probably be happier staying rather than leaving providing the club's ambitions matched their own.

 

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1 hour ago, Philosopher said:

He has been in Italy for 2 seasons where he has done fairly well. But the rigors of the Premier league break aging players. This has disaster written all over it. Fortunately we aren't in a position where we have to throw him into the first team straight away.

edinson cavani psg GIF by Paris Saint-Germain

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25 minutes ago, nick76 said:

I think it would be part of the general model.  Have a young group of players of around 20-30 players (first team and quality in younger teams) and then a handful of older players for various reasons.  I think there needs to be a balance, it cant all be young and so our model is 90% young and the rest older players.  A pure 100% youngsters would seem too far.  Somebody like Young whose been around the block, is free, and I assume his wages wont be stupid will benefit the younger players.  I think this would be part of the general model.

we released Elmo who arguably met the exact same criteria  , he was very well regarded by the club and youngsters by all accounts

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8 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

we released Elmo who arguably met the exact same criteria  , he was very well regarded by the club and youngsters by all accounts

True but I would argue Young played at a much higher level and a better player.  Elmo may also want to leave to get more game time elsewhere, he may have asked.

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Not sure if there's a direct comparison going on between Elmo and Young here. However, Young just won Serie A and played CL football, Elmo got dropped and Smith thought it was better to stick Konsa at RB than use him. 

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10 hours ago, Adam2003 said:

This sort of sentiment is staggering to me. I mean I’m not saying he’ll be a great signing now but was our best player for several years at the high point of the last couple of decades. Things like West Ham away, the 3-2 at Everton, the genuine level of play that saw Man United sign him… to me this is like saying “I don’t have fond memories of Dwight Yorke.”

Its good that we disagree, I don't like agreeing with everyone.

Spent most of the time falling over or crossing the ball into the stands, was frustrating to watch for me.

Yorke on the other hand, I enjoyed watching him.

Horses for courses, each to their own

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