KenjiOgiwara Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: I’ve never understood the continued love of Gareth Barry by some fans. He was a decent player but for me he never showed up in the big games when the chips were down. As you rightly say he kicked up a big fuss when he wanted to leave. I understand that there are reasons why players move on but there’s a way of doing it. Delph, Yorke, Barry are examples of how not to do it. James Milner and to the best of my memory Ashley Young did it right. Still disappointing though at the time. Barry was always a word removed. He also had a transfer request done for spurs IIRC. I don't have any ill feelings to Young like that, but the fact is still he left for Man Utd. And that's enough for me not to want him back. Secondly I have a never go back policy. Whether it is pootang or footballers. But for those who are more rational I fully understand the signing. I said for the start we needed a versatile player to cover both fullback positions, and he does that. With plenty of experience to boot. It makes sense. I just don't like it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Barry was always a word removed. "why is MON at the euros rather than sorting my contract out" Exclusive news of the world interview with Gareth Barry from his florida holiday home Yep word removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Jas10 said: Maybe, but his personality clearly changed for the worse when he moved on, the diving is just another part of it… never liked the guy after he left us. The likes of Milner & even Barry displayed more class & integrity… Anyway, it’s not the main reason I dislike the idea of signing him… This is total bollocks. He went on to captain Manchester United. He played in a World Cup semi final *literally* because of his leadership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Disappointed with this. He moved on. Now we should have moved on. TBF we didn't marry then divorce him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbvilla909 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Signing makes sense, we need back up for Target and experience in the dressing room. I get some hate because he left us for Manure, but, it is what it is. Think that was the beginning of the end of the Lerner days. We just bought Bent then sold the guy that would get the assists for him not long after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 No issue with signing Young on a 1 or 2 year deal. His experience will be a real asset in the dressing room. We’ve lost Heaton, Elmo and Taylor so far this summer and we have a young squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 17 hours ago, skarroki said: He's versatile which is ideal from the bench. I think some of the people against this forget that we're allowed to make subs / pick different starting XI's during the season. Like Smith you mean? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2021 Well if I were Players' Player of the Season Matt Targett, I wouldn't be too happy about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Well if I were Players' Player of the Season Matt Targett, I wouldn't be too happy about this. Why? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbvilla909 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Well if I were Players' Player of the Season Matt Targett, I wouldn't be too happy about this. He needs back up, Young isn't coming in to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Disappointed with this. He moved on. Now we should have moved on. If Jack moves on to Citeh this summer, decides he made a mistake and wants to come back next summer. Does "he moved on, we should have moved on" still ring true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Well if I were Players' Player of the Season Matt Targett, I wouldn't be too happy about this. You’re right he won’t be happy….he’ll be like a dog with two dicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: If Jack moves on to Citeh this summer, decides he made a mistake and wants to come back next summer. Does "he moved on, we should have moved on" still ring true? Yes. 100% definitely yes. Edited June 17, 2021 by KenjiOgiwara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Yes. 100% definitely yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I bet Young never plays one game at left back for us, I'd still expect us to sign another younger left-back who specializes playing in that position in a back four, Chrisene and Revan are unlikely to be ready any time soon, both still only seventeen, they won't even be the same age as Kesler is now until the season after next, they've probably still got a season in our U23s and then a season out on loan before they get near our first team, and Chrisene isn't even a left back anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: If Jack moves on to Citeh this summer Where are my pitchforks… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: Where are my pitchforks… Just an analogy mate, he's going nowhere. (If he did go somewhere, I'd welcome him back though!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa94 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 just need to get milner, barry and downing back now and possibly gabby and champions league here we come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 The whole idea of fan perceived 'player loyalty' is totally unrealistic, sentimental nonsense. Obviously, we invest our hopes and dreams in the players and to some degree, they play along with that narrative, but at the end of the day, they are just doing a job in a fairly short career... Just as we all do from time to time, sometimes they think... yeah, I like it here, but I want to get paid more, so it's time to leave. And if our employer rates us and doesn't want to lose us, they might try all sorts of things to keep us, but if we've made our minds up, we'll do whatever it takes, including being difficult, to make the exit happen more quickly. Equally, if after leaving, we've done well somewhere else, it's natural our old employer will think seriously about taking us back, irrespective of how we left. Real life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, Villa94 said: just need to get milner, barry and downing back now and possibly gabby and champions league here we come You're a cheeky chappy, aren't you!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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