Kiwivillan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, Stevo985 said: I don't know anything about Doyle, but when Percy reports something it's usually pretty solid (I'm not saying he reported this, I have no idea if he did or not) Not a peep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: Not a peep I'll believe it when he suggests it's happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Can you bet on US sports transfer rumours in the US? I'm not familiar that they have anything like the level of journos pulling bollocks out of their arses and wonder if that would garner some legal attention because of the gambling aspect and ability to manipulate a betting market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2021 I realise I've got Nursey and Percy mixed up, hence me randomly bringing Percy into the conversation! Percy is the reliable one. Not Nursey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Buendia was 4/11 to join Arsenal before they suspended the market Can I get odds on JWP not signing for us. That sounds like free money Betting odds don’t really work like that. They are largely calculated by the bookmakers based on how much money has been put on an event happening. In a relatively very small market such a this a few over excited Arsenal fans lumping on a few quid would dictate the odds. Not many people thought Emi would come too us, even we were only cautiously optimistic hence the odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 News papers want clicks, there is probably nothing worthy of A Percy mention to say Villa are even interested, even the slightest interest would get a Percy mention just for clicks. Or Fleet St is on NWSE land and they've all been told to keep schtum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, avfcDJ said: The place i work with has good links with SFC, been chatting with somebody who thinks JWP might want to move on and that his agent contacted Villa. That actually makes me think it's less chance of this happening. Whatever you may think of Deano and our recruitment team (and owners for that matter), they seem to be very planned and ready to act on what they think is the right way to go. They identify a player and go for him. They don't buy a £ 50 million player cause his agent voiced he he might have an interest. Edited June 8, 2021 by KenjiOgiwara 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 30 minutes ago, useless said: Paul Doyle was the same journalist that started the rumour last summer that Sawiris was going to buy Portugese club Vitória de Guimarães, and then nothing else was heard of it again. I don't think he just randomly made it up, but does make me wonder if someone feeds him rumours as some sort of distraction technique or something, maybe have people think we're in for Ward-Prowse when in fact it's Sarr that we we want - although not really sure what purpose that would serve. Hasn't it recently been speculated that Wes Edens was looking into buying a stake in Vitoria? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: That actually makes me think it's less chance of this happening. Whatever you may think of Deano and our recruitment team (and owners for that matter), they seem to be very planned and ready to act on what they think if the right way to go. They identify a player and go for him. They don't buy a £ 50 million player cause his agent voiced he he might have an interest. Unless, of course, we happened to enquire about Ward-Prowse some months back and Southampton told us "no". Fast forward to the summer where Southampton have fallen away, and his agent contacts us to say "the answer was no before, but hey, the situation has changed...". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: News papers want clicks, there is probably nothing worthy of A Percy mention to say Villa are even interested, even the slightest interest would get a Percy mention just for clicks. Or Fleet St is on NWSE land and they've all been told to keep schtum. Percy doesn't tend to report or tweet stuff unless it's happening. Not 100%, but I've seen enough from him to realise if he says it, it's either happening or the interest is real. He's not someone who will just mention stuff for clicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, Awol said: Yes, you’re not convinced the rumour is true. I’ve got it. Saying that over and over again won’t stop us discussing it though. Amen sister. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 The good thing about creating account on Blue Moon to rubbish many posts about Grealish signing for them is no one there has accused me of being negative. Mostly comments about if he arrives for talks would VT say it's photoshopped. Yes someone actually referenced VT over Delph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZL- Posted June 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2021 2 hours ago, avfcDJ said: The place i work with has good links with SFC, been chatting with somebody who thinks JWP might want to move on and that his agent contacted Villa. FWIW Ward-Prowse agent is Jonathan Barnett who also represents our very own Jack Grealish and Esri Konsa. Whilst agents certainly have no loyalties, at least in this case we have an agent who has seen first-hand how serious we are about our project and the money we are prepared to throw around. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, ZL- said: FWIW Ward-Prowse agent is Jonathan Barnett who also represents our very own Jack Grealish and Esri Konsa. Whilst agents certainly have no loyalties, at least in this case we have an agent who has seen first-hand how serious we are about our project and the money we are prepared to throw around. That's the most interesting link yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, ZL- said: FWIW Ward-Prowse agent is Jonathan Barnett who also represents our very own Jack Grealish and Esri Konsa. Whilst agents certainly have no loyalties, at least in this case we have an agent who has seen first-hand how serious we are about our project and the money we are prepared to throw around. Buendia having same agent as Martinez didn't help us sign him... ..oh wait 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post macandally Posted June 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2021 32 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Nursey is referencing Doyle article so meaningless and Nursey is a rocket polisher anyway You just will not entertain that there is any truth in this will you? Its already been stated by others that this bloke works for the Guardian so not your "click bait" red tops, also, he does not usually dabble in the transfer rumour mill. Its also been stated that the bloke who covers Southampton is their version of Matt Kendrick in being typically way off the mark. On top of that, someone who feels he has a bit of an inside track suggested that maybe JWP's agent instigated this. All of these have been summarily dismissed by you without any evidence to back why? We may not get JWP, and we may never know really whether we are in for him or not, but I find your repetitive insistence that this has no grounds, without any evidence, a bit comical. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, macandally said: We may not get JWP, and we may never know really whether we are in for him or not, but I find your repetitive insistence that this has no grounds, without any evidence, a bit comical. So if we don't get him I'm still in the wrong in my assumption. No burden of proof on the rumour instigator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, ZL- said: FWIW Ward-Prowse agent is Jonathan Barnett who also represents our very own Jack Grealish and Esri Konsa. Whilst agents certainly have no loyalties, at least in this case we have an agent who has seen first-hand how serious we are about our project and the money we are prepared to throw around. Precisely. If there is one person who knows whether Jack wants to leave or to stay, it's his agent. Now, assuming the answer is 'stay' - and we're building a formidable team, by adding players of the calibre of Buendia... if I was JWP, I'd be seriously interested. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: So if we don't get him I'm still in the wrong in my assumption. No burden of proof on the rumour instigator To be fair, most rumours don't come to light. Personally, I think the odd thing is your repeated insistence that this particular rumour is ridiculous. Most people kind of dismiss it initially and then don't bother following up on that. Each to their own though 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: So if we don't get him I'm still in the wrong in my assumption. No burden of proof on the rumour instigator I think you, like most people outside of the game (including me), know nothing about this transfer. Whilst there are obvious click bait links, this one seemingly has a bit more to it however, like any transfer, has lots of moving pieces. It may happen, it may not, but seemingly every 5th post in this threat seems to be you rubbishing it without once providing any evidence to the contrary. We get your thoughts, and respect them (its a forum), but at least consider what others that potentially know more than you are offering before you arbitrarily shoot them down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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