villalad21 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Philosopher said: Most of our 15 clean sheets were without Nakamba. Sometimes you just have games like that. If we are playing with 2 8's and a 6 and those 8's are decent defensively (McGinn and Luiz for example), then JWP as the 6 is fine. If you're playing a 6, 8, and 10 you need a Nakamba type (that's better on the ball ideally). Yeah but stats shows Emi was overworked last season so the back 4 is clearly not getting good enough protection 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) This would be a statement signing - very much a power play to strengthen us, weaken a rival team and assert dominance over them, and show other players that we mean business. Wouldn't surprise me at all if we went for it. Signing him is another matter. Edited June 8, 2021 by lexicon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Compare the stats, JWP trumps McGinn. His WhoScored rating is also higher. JWP scores more goals gets more assists and ultimately he keeps the ball way better than McGinn. Obvious upgrade. Now whether there is any truth in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Compare the stats, JWP trumps McGinn. His WhoScored rating is also higher. JWP scores more goals gets more assists and ultimately he keeps the ball way better than McGinn. Obvious upgrade. Now whether there is any truth in it? How many goals and assists does he get from open play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Yeah but stats shows Emi was overworked last season so the back 4 is clearly not getting good enough protection Depends on what teams you're comparing us to! If you're comparing our shots against stats with possession based teams then it will always be unfavourable, as we primarily played a counter style which means conceding more territory to invite teams onto us, which means more openings for long shots, as more time is spent defending in our defensive third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Would he be the first double barrel named villa player ? (Djemba, Djemba doesn't count !) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, hippo said: Would he be the first double barrel named villa player ? (Djemba, Djemba doesn't count !) Yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Pliilogene-Bidace? (for 10 minutes) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Compare the stats, JWP trumps McGinn. His WhoScored rating is also higher. JWP scores more goals gets more assists and ultimately he keeps the ball way better than McGinn. Obvious upgrade. Now whether there is any truth in it? McGinn more interceptions, blocks, successful dribbles, drawing fouls etc etc but sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, villalad21 said: How many goals and assists does he get from open play? I think of his 8 goals last season 5 were free kicks and 2 penalties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Posted June 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: Set pieces are a pretty big thing to be dismissive of, especially when we get so many. I’m sure we practice set pieces a lot but it is a natural talent to some extent. Fine margins and all that. If we did sign him, I don't think we would have had anyone as effective in scoring from a free kick themselves, since the days of Bruce Rioch. 35 minutes ago, Jareth said: JWP belongs at a top 6 club (us maaaaaaaybeeee?) - looks every part as effective as any other midfielder at the club, plus he has his set piece super power - might be a big outlay but the difference he would make in tight games could be huge for us. He's the sort of targeted addition top clubs make. I could not agree more. Signing the two Emi's was terrific business, adding JWP to the ranks as well, would really have the likes of Arsenal and Spurs seriously worried or even more worried than they already are. Bring it on, you can't have enough good players... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: I think of his 8 goals last season 5 were free kicks and 2 penalties That is a ridiculous stat. Whether it’s him or someone else we really could do with a free kick expert given that Jack is fouled 100 times per game. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: Pliilogene-Bidace? (for 10 minutes) JPA almost qualifies too... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Grealish draws so many free kicks, to have Ward-Prowse to take advantage of that could be game-changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted June 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2021 The place i work with has good links with SFC, been chatting with somebody who thinks JWP might want to move on and that his agent contacted Villa. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: I think of his 8 goals last season 5 were free kicks and 2 penalties Most of his assists were set pieces also. He's not like McGinn. In open play he is more defensive. A cross between a ball winner, spoiler (good at the dirty spoiling tactics), and distributor. Outside of set pieces you won't notice him much unless you're purposely looking out for him. You play this guy behind McGinn and Luiz in a 3, or alongside one of those two in a 2. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) For me this link is for real, but the deal is a tough one to make. Definitely a perfect fit for Smith and the club. Leader, set piece specialist, combative, excellent presser, good passer. Southampton will want 40 to 50 million pounds for him even if he puts in a transfer request. Southampton however are a selling club, they have kept afloat by selling their best players for big money so a deal can be made, it's all about whether we are willing to spend the money. Edited June 8, 2021 by Philosopher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 It’d be interesting to see how many free kicks Southampton were awarded last season compared to Villa. JWP scored 5 from their total, I would imagine our total is significantly higher and that he’d have the opportunity to probably double his free kick attempts at Villa. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted June 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, villalad21 said: How many goals and assists does he get from open play? Does that matter? We’re boosting our assists and goals with Buendia. If you are talking goals, with Grealish being the most fouled player in the league, and JWP to finish them off we’re adding at least 10-13 goals to the team per season, maybe more. Plus if defenders realise this and avoid fouling Jack, it just gives him license to rip defences apart. Either way it would add significant firepower to our forward line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, avfcDJ said: The place i work with has good links with SFC, been chatting with somebody who thinks JWP might want to move on and that his agent contacted Villa. We’re listening.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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