dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Junxs said: Are football transfers exempt from tax? I'd imagine we'll only get 80m of the Grealish fee The club will pay corporation tax on profits, but I wouldn’t worry about us making a profit yet! The business up until now has operated at a loss since the days of Doug Ellis. There is VAT on domestic transfers, but without knowing whether it was £100m including or excluding VAT and what the rest of our VAT ledger looks like, it’s difficult to speculate on what this means for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share Posted August 13, 2021 If I was to hazard a guess the reported fee won’t include VAT. So it will be 100m plus an additional 20m (eventually) to HMRC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I think this gets done. His silence has been telling. Could see it go right to the deadline, we’ll pay a hefty fee though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 4 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: If I was to hazard a guess the reported fee won’t include VAT. So it will be 100m plus an additional 20m (eventually) to HMRC. City will be VAT registered so the £20m VAT will only effect their short term cashflow (which will never be a problem for a gulf state) then they'll be able to claim it back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Ings was his best pal. I wonder if they have had words, which is a part of Ings coming in, an JWP will follow just before the transfer deadline ends. I doubt JWP wants to stay there after all the best players have gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 And Targett who they both came up through the academy at Southampton together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Still not on for having a third saints players at Villa. I don't think it will happen anyway, I've a feeling from what Smith said that were done and we may buy someone in January now. Unless something goes horribly wrong and were forced into needing a new signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave-R said: Still not on for having a third saints players at Villa. I don't think it will happen anyway, I've a feeling from what Smith said that were done and we may buy someone in January now. Unless something goes horribly wrong and were forced into needing a new signing. Why? Liverpool had Van Dijk, Mane, Lovre off them, didn’t do them any harm. If they are good players and improve the team, does it matter where they came from? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Why? Liverpool had Van Dijk, Mane, Lovre off them, didn’t do them any harm. If they are good players and improve the team, does it matter where they came from? Usually you take to many players off of one team you start bringing in there behaviours, now do you want us to be seen as Southampton 2.0 with there cons?? I also do not know what the obsession is with JWP, feels abit like an ESR rebound from a love affair gone wrong (who by the way was not so good last night). Thankfully we didn't buy ESR and I hope we also don't go there for JWP. These players maybe shining for there club, but because they do it doesn't automatically mean they will come to Villa and shine and have there previous clubs performances shine. I think if we're going to spend in a CM then we need to really spend in that area and try buy someone from the top teams in Europe. I think it's nice that some of you see more than I can in JWP and if the club pulls that transfer then I can only hope your all right but for some reason I just don't hold that level of enthusiasm like you guys do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dave-R said: Usually you take to many players off of one team you start bringing in there behaviours, now do you want us to be seen as Southampton 2.0 with there cons?? I also do not know what the obsession is with JWP, feels abit like an ESR rebound from a love affair gone wrong (who by the way was not so good last night). Thankfully we didn't buy ESR and I hope we also don't go there for JWP. These players maybe shining for there club, but because they do it doesn't automatically mean they will come to Villa and shine and have there previous clubs performances shine. I think if we're going to spend in a CM then we need to really spend in that area and try buy someone from the top teams in Europe. I think it's nice that some of you see more than I can in JWP and if the club pulls that transfer then I can only hope your all right but for some reason I just don't hold that level of enthusiasm like you guys do. I think I'm far from alone in thinking ESR looked very good last night. Him and Saka are Arsenal's only bright sparks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 8 hours ago, YouUnastanFren said: City will be VAT registered so the £20m VAT will only effect their short term cashflow (which will never be a problem for a gulf state) then they'll be able to claim it back. Indeed. Think of VAT like an pair of scales, with expenditure on one side and incoming on the other. If you receive more incoming VAT than you spend, you have to pass that balance along to HMRC. Alternatively, if you spend more in VAT than you receive, the VAT comes back to you from HMRC as either cash or credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: I think I'm far from alone in thinking ESR looked very good last night. Him and Saka are Arsenal's only bright sparks. I seen a couple of moments from him, but as far as I could see Arsenal were completely flat without an Answer to Brentford. I don't think they ever got in for a run behind Brentford's line now did they, even the commentator pointed that out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, Dave-R said: Usually you take to many players off of one team you start bringing in there behaviours, now do you want us to be seen as Southampton 2.0 with there cons?? I also do not know what the obsession is with JWP, feels abit like an ESR rebound from a love affair gone wrong (who by the way was not so good last night). Thankfully we didn't buy ESR and I hope we also don't go there for JWP. These players maybe shining for there club, but because they do it doesn't automatically mean they will come to Villa and shine and have there previous clubs performances shine. I think if we're going to spend in a CM then we need to really spend in that area and try buy someone from the top teams in Europe. I think it's nice that some of you see more than I can in JWP and if the club pulls that transfer then I can only hope your all right but for some reason I just don't hold that level of enthusiasm like you guys do. Targett has played more games for us than he ever played for Southampton. Bit weird to still consider him a Saints player. Also, Targett never played a game under the current manager so that theory really doesn't apply to him at all. JWP is a top 5 midfielder in this league. He will improve us by a huge margin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Starts for Soton today, but jeez that is a very poor looking defence they've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 47 minutes ago, a-k said: Starts for Soton today, but jeez that is a very poor looking defence they've got. Can’t see him leaving. It would be almost certainly mean relegation for them. Surely their board isn’t that stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 hours ago, StanBalaban said: I think I'm far from alone in thinking ESR looked very good last night. Him and Saka are Arsenal's only bright sparks. Tierney is pretty good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 JWP been anonymous for us. Get him off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I've changed my stance. Pay the money. McGinn and Nakamba just ain't it chief. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, rodders0223 said: I've changed my stance. Pay the money. McGinn and Nakamba just ain't it chief. Has been putting in some great corners, and causing havoc with free-kicks in the Everton game so far apparently, despite the scoreline. We need to get him in this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 We really need a player of this ability in our midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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