Popular Post useless Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 Dwight McNeil is a very good player, I don't think I've seen him have a bad game, he's not the type of winger that will be good one week but then bad the next, he always puts in a good performance, if he was playing for a better team his stats would look much better, created more chances last season than any of our players with the exception of Grealish. The negative reactions remind me of the reactions from when we were linked to Cash and Watkins last summer, and Targett the summer before, I guess there's a lack of glamour and excitement in these type of signings for some. Also worth remembering that he's still only 21. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, useless said: Dwight McNeil is a very good player, I don't think I've seen him have a bad game, he's not the type of winger that will be good one week but then bad the next, he always puts in a good performance, if he was playing for a better team his stats would look much better, created more chances last season than any of our players with the exception of Grealish. The negative reactions remind me of the reactions from when we were linked to Cash and Watkins last summer, and Targett the summer before, I guess there's a lack of glamour and excitement in these type of signings for some. Also worth remembering that he's still only 21. ye, i would 100% take McNeil. However, i would also 100% take Buendia! Ideally......we could have McNeil on the left, Buendia on the right and Grealish at no.10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I'm a fan of McNeil--technically very gifted and often uses his quick footwork to get out of seemingly impossible situations. He plays the game according to Burnley's tactics at the moment (run, long ball/cross and repeat). I think he would link up with Grealish and Buendia/Traore superbly. Transfer fee would be massive though, anything above £20million would make me think twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 What is so good about McNeil? I haven't seen him do anything of note - just endlessly hugging the left wing, trying to find the grizzled head of some Kiwi oaf. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez1974 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, useless said: Dwight McNeil is a very good player, I don't think I've seen him have a bad game, he's not the type of winger that will be good one week but then bad the next, he always puts in a good performance, if he was playing for a better team his stats would look much better, created more chances last season than any of our players with the exception of Grealish. The negative reactions remind me of the reactions from when we were linked to Cash and Watkins last summer, and Targett the summer before, I guess there's a lack of glamour and excitement in these type of signings for some. Also worth remembering that he's still only 21. This. People writing off a 21 year old, in a Burnley team, and wanting Rashica (for example) who they have probably never seen play outside of You Tube highlight videos, are probably the same people who think Des Bremner was terrible. I also think the price could be quite reasonable given the quotes of £40m for Buendia. Burnley have been hit hard by Covid, and won't see McNeill as the only way they can survive in he PL - which will make Norwich demand a premium for any of their players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted May 28, 2021 Author VT Supporter Share Posted May 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, The_Steve said: I thought the Athletic was for serious football analysis? Transfer speculation is just as bad as the tabloids. Given that it’s Gregg Evans, I don’t believe it either. gregg will always have his history working for the brum mail tarnishing his reputation. my understanding of everything transfer related from the athletic per their policy is that it has to come direct from the club, so i take anything i read on there as genuine. i know i'm massively in the minority though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted May 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 28, 2021 He’s only 21 though, room to improve and not the finished article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 28, 2021 Think this one could be real - it's exactly the profile of player you'd think we were after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 36 games 2 goals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Extensive groundwork has already been done on McNeil, thats a new one, might be legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Posted this in the Buendia thread but: McNeil’s stats have never been as impressive as they should be but every time I watch him I think there is a player there. I rate Pereira and would be delighted with any one of these three. Two of them just feels greedy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted May 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 28, 2021 I'll join the chorus of not for me Beake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted May 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: I'll join the chorus of not for me Beake I'll join the club of people who trust the manager that hasn't put a foot wrong yet (season by season) and the recruitment team that gave us our best window in over a decade last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted May 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, villarule123 said: I'll join the club of people who trust the manager that hasn't put a foot wrong yet (season by season) and the recruitment team that gave us our best window in over a decade last year. Wow, ok. Sorry for having an opinion, but I guess if we don't buy him then you agree with me Rather than roll out useless cliches why not just share your opinion on him. Edited May 28, 2021 by Villan_of_oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Yes please, I think he's technically very good. Rarely gives the ball away, range of passing is superb and has some tricks in him as well. Not sure left wing is his best position, I've always felt central midfield is where he will eventually end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, useless said: Dwight McNeil is a very good player, I don't think I've seen him have a bad game, he's not the type of winger that will be good one week but then bad the next, he always puts in a good performance, if he was playing for a better team his stats would look much better, created more chances last season than any of our players with the exception of Grealish. The negative reactions remind me of the reactions from when we were linked to Cash and Watkins last summer, and Targett the summer before, I guess there's a lack of glamour and excitement in these type of signings for some. Also worth remembering that he's still only 21. This, basically. Has great potential and is more of a solid winger than an exciting but baffling one like Traore. Dare I compare him in style to uber consistent Ryan Giggs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Junxs said: Yes please, I think he's technically very good. Rarely gives the ball away, range of passing is superb and has some tricks in him as well. Not sure left wing is his best position, I've always felt central midfield is where he will eventually end up. Agree with this--I think he could play 10 with Grealish on the left and be interchangeable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 40 minutes ago, villalad21 said: 36 games 2 goals For Burnley though, not exactly the most attacking and fluent of teams who just finished above the relegation zone. He's 21 and has shown a lot of talent over the last 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted May 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Villan_of_oz said: Wow, ok. Sorry for having an opinion, but I guess if we don't buy him then you agree with me Rather than roll out useless cliches why not just share you opinion on him. I didn't actually mean to quote you but it was a response to everyone having an instant negative view on a player like they did with Traore last summer. My view on the player is that anyone that can look skilful or creative in the style Burnley play must have something about them. He's only 21 too and already very experienced. I just trust whoever the recruitment team want after waiting a hell of a long time to be able to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I think there's some truth in excusing some of his underwhelming creative numbers because of the type of team Burnley are, but at the same time it's his job to be one of their creators so if Burnley have underperformed in that sense it's because the player himself has. Looking deeper than goals/assists into nerdy statistics he had less "shot creating actions" this season for Burnley than the likes of Ashley Barnes and Vydra, which is even more stark reading when you bear in mind that McNeil takes a lot of their set pieces. He was coming in at something like 0.70 per game in open play. Completed less dribbles, carried the ball far less than previously (which presumably would be a key trait needed for us to alleviate how much pressure there is on Jack to do so) etc, conservative teams are made even more conservative when their players responsible for creating are failing to do so. Good player in there of course and still only young, but there's grounds for hesitance with the link beyond pigeon-holing people thinking as such as not finding the idea of British signings sexy enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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