Zatman Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Italy nearly 1000 minutes without conceding a goal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted June 16, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, coda said: They're good but I don't like them That's fair enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Not sure why the Swiss fans are so despondent, beat the turks, which they should do and 4 points should get them through to the next round, their fans look like they've just been knocked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: Mancini is the best coach in the tournament Not quite sure Mancini has enough to get winners out of this but they'll go close. Now imagine Conte with this squad..... Lightyears head of the squad he had in 2016 and he got them to within one penalty kick of making the SG. Also better than what they had in 2012 when they made the final under Prandelli. Building up some momentum now. Edited June 16, 2021 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 The Swiss do this every time in qualifying with ease and then doing nothing at the tournament. A poor man's England. Italy look impressive but bear in mind the Swiss and the Turks have been rubbish thus far. Will Mancini send a reserve team to play Wales in Baku to rest key players but could risk not topping the group? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Not quite sure Mancini has enough to get winners out of this but they'll go close. Now imagine Conte with this squad..... Lightyears head of the squad he had in 2016 and he got them to within one penalty kick of making the SG. Also better than what they had in 2012 when they made the final under Prandelli. Building up some momentum now. Mancini did good job at Fiorentina and great one at Lazio and won titles at Inter and City 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 There always seems to be a team like Italy that starts well and everyone raves about but then when they face a decent side they get beat. Best two teams so far have been France and Germany, Germany looked a little off but still could have got something from the game last night and look like a side that will get better as the tournament goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, sne said: Morale is never just ok for Zlatan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Xela said: Shakin' Stevens being the zenith. Lovely stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Chapuisat, Hagi, Stoichkov, Šuker... There was a time when it seemed every team, even the lesser fancied ones, in these championships had at least one word star player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, useless said: There always seems to be a team like Italy that starts well and everyone raves about but then when they face a decent side they get beat. Best two teams so far have been France and Germany, Germany looked a little off but still could have got something from the game last night and look like a side that will get better as the tournament goes on. Don't get me wrong gnabry should have scored but for as good as Germany looked on the ball they didn't create enough I don't know if they've got that many goals in them They could be looking at having to put 3+ past Hungary too to get out out of the group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, useless said: There always seems to be a team like Italy that starts well and everyone raves about but then when they face a decent side they get beat. Best two teams so far have been France and Germany, Germany looked a little off but still could have got something from the game last night and look like a side that will get better as the tournament goes on. Thats why I dont get carried away by teams doing well in group games. Its about peaking at the right time like Djokovic in tennis rand slams Edited June 16, 2021 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) The two Italian performances were what the pundits seemed to describe England as having. Did you notice any difference? I think I spotted a few. Edited June 16, 2021 by Tomaszk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted June 16, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted June 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Zatman said: Mancini did good job at Fiorentina and great one at Lazio and won titles at Inter and City His Inter achievements shouldn't be taken that seriously. They were essentially handed Italian dominance for a few years and he happened to be at the helm at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rino8 said: His Inter achievements shouldn't be taken that seriously. They were essentially handed Italian dominance for a few years and he happened to be at the helm at the time I'm not sure his City ones should either 1 league title and 1 FA Cup in 4 seasons, that's not something to brag about The statement that he's the best manager at the euros though...its not a tough crowd, its him or deschamps and mancini has the better club CV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, villa4europe said: I'm not sure his City ones should either 1 league title and 1 FA Cup in 4 seasons, that's not something to brag about The statement that he's the best manager at the euros though...its not a tough crowd, its him or deschamps and mancini has the better club CV City wasn't that impressive but beat Ferguson though and City werent that great when he arrived. Think he brought Silva and Toure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Being a good club manager doesn't mean you're a good international manager. Joachim Löw would have to be in the mix as best manager in the Euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: Not sure why the Swiss fans are so despondent, beat the turks, which they should do and 4 points should get them through to the next round, their fans look like they've just been knocked out I would be pretty despondent if I had paid a lot of money to witness that half-assed, lackadaisical, stroll at around at half pace display. Nobody would ever expect them to actually beat Italy, but I think you'd feel entitled to see them give it a try, rather than just rolling over and having their tummies tickled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, PaulC said: Being a good club manager doesn't mean you're a good international manager. Joachim Löw would have to be in the mix as best manager in the Euros. Why? He won one tournament out of 8 I think Edited June 16, 2021 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I would be pretty despondent if I had paid a lot of money to witness that half-assed, lackadaisical, stroll at around at half pace display. Nobody would ever expect them to actually beat Italy, but I think you'd feel entitled to see them give it a try, rather than just rolling over and having their tummies tickled. Yep they barely laid a glove on them. Shaqiri the star player makes Gabby at the end look like athletic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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