Stevo985 Posted May 25, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 25, 2021 21 hours ago, CVByrne said: Why would he be sacked? Arsenal have the 2nd best form in the League since Boxing Day. Clearly looks like they turned a corner in second half of the season. Just hard to see what would be reason to choose less wages and a less big name club and join us. Just setting expectations on this one This is a name I haven't seen in a while! Welcome back! (Sorry if you've been back for ages, I don't come into On Topic that much anymore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 25, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I know they play different positions but id rather apend 40m on tammy than buendia No way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 44 minutes ago, lexicon said: Whats so hard to understand if we have to 40m to spend on ONE player for me its tammy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 why tammy? we have ollie? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: I know they play different positions but id rather apend 40m on tammy than buendia I'd rather spend £70m on Buendia than £40m on Tammy. One would be perfect for us and have a massive impact on how we play, the other would be a great second choice striker but we don't have £40m for the bench 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 We bought Watkins last year, the best player in Championship that year. Buendia has been the best player in Championship this year, and also has a record of performing in PL. I do not understand if people say he isnt good enough, I can see the point if we should focus on other areas thou. 40 mill for Buendia isnt crazy or too much when Watkins came for 33. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: I'd rather spend £70m on Buendia than £40m on Tammy. One would be perfect for us and have a massive impact on how we play, the other would be a great second choice striker but we don't have £40m for the bench No way would i. Why do people keep saying this? Competition for places if ollie performs he will stay in the team of he doesnt then his place will be under threat If ollie gets a 2-3 month injury touch wood wont happen who we wgot davis who has scored a mighty one goal all sesson or wesley who has been out for 18 months. We need another striker in my view as well. If thw grealish injury has taight us something we need to ensure we can cope with injuries to key players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: We need another striker in my view as well. If thw grealish injury has taight us something we need to ensure we can cope with injuries to key players Yes, exactly. We need Buendia as the top priority because he’s creativity on toast, the thing that killed us when Jack was out. No point having a bucket of great finishers who never get chances. If Wes leaves or goes on loan then a player who can cover LF and ST is needed, Tammy does one thing very well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Aston_Villan4 said: In his one season in the PL he was 4th in chances created (Would've been higher than Grealish if they had equivalent minutes), 4th in take ons (Which was better than Grealish) and he had more assists than Grealish in that season (7 to 6). What are you on about? Norwich went down and I don’t recall him doing anything particularly special. Traore and El Ghazi’s stats for this season look great but if you popped into those threads at any point this season you’d think they were both less than average players, so stats don’t always mean a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Whats so hard to understand if we have to 40m to spend on ONE player for me its tammy Because it makes absolutely zero sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 If he joins I imagine we'll be top of the chances created pile by a wide margin which can only bode well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Awol said: Yes, exactly. We need Buendia as the top priority because he’s creativity on toast, the thing that killed us when Jack was out. No point having a bucket of great finishers who never get chances. If Wes leaves or goes on loan then a player who can cover LF and ST is needed, Tammy does one thing very well. Im not saying i dont want buendia im saying if we had the choice of one 40m player it would be tammy. I think buendia would be godi at the right price Tammy was top scorer for Chelsea despite not playin at all under tuchel Leicester have two quality strikersjn ichanecheo and vardy. We should look at the same. I mea if we could get buendia and tammy that would be unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Being called up to Argentinas squad while playing in Championship should show he atleast is a decent player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, bannedfromHandV said: Norwich went down and I don’t recall him doing anything particularly special. Traore and El Ghazi’s stats for this season look great but if you popped into those threads at any point this season you’d think they were both less than average players, so stats don’t always mean a lot. You can't fake chance creation stats. Him and Jack were seriously impressive in that department last season, both in the top 10 in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, lexicon said: Because it makes absolutely zero sense Signing a 2nd quality striker makes zero sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Im not saying i dont want buendia im saying if we had the choice of one 40m player it would be tammy. My greatest concern with Tammy is that when Grealish came back from injury in the promotion run, I felt Tammy became invisible in many matches. I know he scored 5 goals in 10 victories in a row, but I feel he did not contribute as much in total. Abraham is a great player, but I do not think he is the kind of player who we need to compete with Watkins. We clearly need a work horse upfront, and Tammy does not fit that bill to me. To clarify: another striker would be great, even thou I see 3 positions I would go for before that (LB, DM, CAM), but I would go for another guy than Tammy Edited May 25, 2021 by MentalM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Keyblade said: You can't fake chance creation stats. Him and Jack were seriously impressive in that department last season, both in the top 10 in Europe. Okay but also, chance creation isn’t necessarily a great yardstick, what exactly is the criteria for a chance created? I worry that he may be one of those players that’s too good for the championship but not good enough to be a good PL player, of course I could well be wrong but £40M feels steep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, MentalM said: My greatest concern with Tammy is that when Grealish came back from injury in the promotion run, I felt Tammy became invisible in many matches. I know he scored 5 goals in 10 victories in a row, but I feel he did not contribute as much in total. Abraham is a great player, but I do not think he is the kind of player who we need to compete with Watkins. We clearly need a work horse upfront, and Tammy does not fit that bill to me. To clarify: another striker would be great, even thou I see 3 positions I would go for before that (LB, DM, CAM), but I would go for another guy than Tammy I appreciate your pount about ollies work rate that cannot be faulted. But at the same time i remember tammy would ddop back deep to help out alot in the season. He wasnt by any means a lazy striker. He is different to ollie too which i like. I do thing bith coukd be in the same team as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: No way would i. Why do people keep saying this? Competition for places if ollie performs he will stay in the team of he doesnt then his place will be under threat If ollie gets a 2-3 month injury touch wood wont happen who we wgot davis who has scored a mighty one goal all sesson or wesley who has been out for 18 months. We need another striker in my view as well. If thw grealish injury has taight us something we need to ensure we can cope with injuries to key players I suppose the point is, why spend £40m on a player to provide competition to an established performer when we have glaring needs in our first 11 to be addressed first. If money were no object then it would be great to sign Tammy(although £40m is way too much and he wouldn’t come here unless he was guaranteed a starting place). Spending £40m on a centre mid or a wide forward would provide much greater overall benefit to the team than spending it on competition for an established, performing player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 25, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Signing a 2nd quality striker makes zero sense? It makes zero sense if it was an either or situation. It woudln't make sense to sign Tammy when we have Ollie, when we have a glaring need for a player like Buendia in our midfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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