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4 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said:

Buendia & Jack in the same team would be unreal. Thats a ridiculous amount of chance creation. Watkins will just be motoring around the pitch with a permanent chubby

I'm not sure how to respond to that or even if I want to imagine it.

You do know some people call Chubby chewing Gum 🤣.

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2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said:

It would be if we replaced Traore with someone good, yeh. 

Traore is the biggest baller I've ever seen at Villa and debut season returns are great but yeah DOL was right about fickle fans

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14 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said:

Traore is the biggest baller I've ever seen at Villa and debut season returns are great but yeah DOL was right about fickle fans

@Delphinho123 would only be fickle if he’d heaped praise on Traore and then slagged him off. From memory I don’t think he’s ever been a big fan.  He could be accused of being wrongly critical but not fickle. 

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If we signed Buendia he'd probably take Traore's place in the starting line up. I know people have this fantasy of us playing with a load of playmakers all at once, but for a lot of games, if not most it will be Grealish on the left Traore or new signing on the right, and then three central midfielders from Luiz, McGInn, Sanson, Ramsey, and Nakamba in central midfield.

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30 minutes ago, Dave-R said:

I'm not sure how to respond to that or even if I want to imagine it.

You do know some people call Chubby chewing Gum 🤣.

I'd rather the thought of him running around with chewing gum to be fair. The other scenario is just wrong 😂

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12 minutes ago, useless said:

If we signed Buendia he'd probably take Traore's place in the starting line up. I know people have this fantasy of us playing with a load of playmakers all at once, but for a lot of games, if not most it will be Grealish on the left Traore or new signing on the right, and then three central midfielders from Luiz, McGInn, Sanson, Ramsey, and Nakamba in central midfield.

I think we'll have Buendia / Jack / Traore swap positions during the game or as you say Jake + one other on the wings with 3 man midfield with a holding player. I would say for most we will be attacking so the three of them in same team would be for like 28-30 games a season.

Buendia highly unlikely to join us however. I am a big fan of Pereira so hope we get him.

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1 hour ago, useless said:

If we signed Buendia he'd probably take Traore's place in the starting line up. I know people have this fantasy of us playing with a load of playmakers all at once, but for a lot of games, if not most it will be Grealish on the left Traore or new signing on the right, and then three central midfielders from Luiz, McGInn, Sanson, Ramsey, and Nakamba in central midfield.

The only reason we weren't playing with a dedicated CAM towards the end of the season is because we didn't have one after giving up on Barkley.

It absolutely is part of the plan, I'm certain of it.

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There seems to have been this strange recent thing where people seem to think we have to play with a no.10 type as our attacking midfielder, but we don't, most teams don't play with such a player in central midfield and there's a reason for that, that reason being unless you have three dedicated midflelders in the middle of the park you're going to leave yourselve exposed to the risk of getting overrun, against most clubs you would be playing two against three in the middle of the park.

The funny thing is that most if not all of the players that people suggest we buy to play in our central midfield as a CAM are players that usually play on the wing, Buendia and Pereira both virtually always play on the right wing, Grealish himself usually plays on the left wing, yet for some reason people are obssessed with us signing such players and playing them in our midfield.

To be an attacking midfielder a player doesn't have to be a 'no.10' type, say for example if we played the majority of games next season with a three man midfield of Luiz, McGInn and Sanson, that wouldn't be a defensive line up, both McGinn and Sanson can be considered attacking players, and Luiz himself has offensive qualities, in fact by most teams' standards that would be considered quite an attack minded central midfield.

Of course if we were to sign Buendia then I'm sure there'd be occasions where we'd play with him Grealish and Traore in the same side sacrificing a more tradtional midfielder to do so, but I don't think we'd line up like that as often as some might thing, sometimes we will need three specialist midfielders on the pitch.

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2 hours ago, DaveAV1 said:

@Delphinho123 would only be fickle if he’d heaped praise on Traore and then slagged him off. From memory I don’t think he’s ever been a big fan.  He could be accused of being wrongly critical but not fickle. 

I was actually guilty at the start of posting that I thought he’d be good for us after a few decent performances, but this is a sport where opinions change and I can only say what I see over the course of a season. I think people just call other fans ‘fickle’ because it’s popular to and it’s a great way of trying to reinforce your own opinion. 

Traore, barring a couple of wonder goals and the occasional bit of trickery, in my opinion, had been largely poor. He’s a dream to defend against because he’s slow and he’s weak and he’s very predictable. I lost count of the amount of times I watched him one on one with a defender only to lose the ball or get pushed off it. He’s poor defensively too. 

@Kiwivillan, it’s ok to have a different opinion to someone without calling them names, pal. You rate him, I don’t. We cool? 

This is the Buendia thread though, and if we did sign Buendia, right now, I’d have him on the right replacing Traore playing McGinn in the middle with Sanson and a new DCM behind. What I really want is for us to sign Buendia and then go all out on a top quality right winger too. 

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10 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said:

I was actually guilty at the start of posting that I thought he’d be good for us after a few decent performances, but this is a sport where opinions change and I can only say what I see over the course of a season. I think people just call other fans ‘fickle’ because it’s popular to and it’s a great way of trying to reinforce your own opinion. 

Traore, barring a couple of wonder goals and the occasional bit of trickery, in my opinion, had been largely poor. He’s a dream to defend against because he’s slow and he’s weak and he’s very predictable. I lost count of the amount of times I watched him one on one with a defender only to lose the ball or get pushed off it. He’s poor defensively too. 

@Kiwivillan, it’s ok to have a different opinion to someone without calling them names, pal. You rate him, I don’t. We cool? 

This is the Buendia thread though, and if we did sign Buendia, right now, I’d have him on the right replacing Traore playing McGinn in the middle with Sanson and a new DCM behind. What I really want is for us to sign Buendia and then go all out on a top quality right winger too. 

Traore’s weaknesses are clear to see and largely as you’ve outlined. He’s got a wonder moment in him but overall we lose too much possession due to him. He’s not alone in that though. The hope is he improves next season. In an ideal world he’s an impact sub. 
 

Buendia is a huge step up from him in my very humble opinion. An opinion, I’ll admit, based largely on ‘tinterweb knowledge. 

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Buendia is supposed to be Ross Barkley's replacement.  The reason why he is so sought after is because his defensive numbers are also excellent so you don't sacrifice so much by having him in the team.  

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3 hours ago, useless said:

If we signed Buendia he'd probably take Traore's place in the starting line up. I know people have this fantasy of us playing with a load of playmakers all at once, but for a lot of games, if not most it will be Grealish on the left Traore or new signing on the right, and then three central midfielders from Luiz, McGInn, Sanson, Ramsey, and Nakamba in central midfield.

I honestly don't think this will happen. Buendia will come in to essentially replace Barkley imo, whether that's in a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1. We seem to be relatively flexible in how we transition between the two formations depending on who we're playing. 

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1 hour ago, useless said:

There seems to have been this strange recent thing where people seem to think we have to play with a no.10 type as our attacking midfielder, but we don't, most teams don't play with such a player in central midfield and there's a reason for that, that reason being unless you have three dedicated midflelders in the middle of the park you're going to leave yourselve exposed to the risk of getting overrun, against most clubs you would be playing two against three in the middle of the park.

The funny thing is that most if not all of the players that people suggest we buy to play in our central midfield as a CAM are players that usually play on the wing, Buendia and Pereira both virtually always play on the right wing, Grealish himself usually plays on the left wing, yet for some reason people are obssessed with us signing such players and playing them in our midfield.

To be an attacking midfielder a player doesn't have to be a 'no.10' type, say for example if we played the majority of games next season with a three man midfield of Luiz, McGInn and Sanson, that wouldn't be a defensive line up, both McGinn and Sanson can be considered attacking players, and Luiz himself has offensive qualities, in fact by most teams' standards that would be considered quite an attack minded central midfield.

Of course if we were to sign Buendia then I'm sure there'd be occasions where we'd play with him Grealish and Traore in the same side sacrificing a more tradtional midfielder to do so, but I don't think we'd line up like that as often as some might thing, sometimes we will need three specialist midfielders on the pitch.

I see what you’re saying and it’s evident that other teams play that way, but the evidence was there at the start of the season when Barkley was playing so close to Ollie & linking up with Jack, that it made us much more dangerous and threatening in attack. That goal against Leicester was a highlight, a crucial winner. He grabbed one against Southampton too when we’d been under the cosh and almost played as a second striker at times…

Having a proper CAM would help us massively and help in trying to replicate the kind of performances where we were blowing away the likes of Liverpool & Arsenal and going toe to toe with the likes of Leicester… instead of having to sit back & defend and rely on breakaways. I think we need to move away from that kind of “inferiority complex” by now and strengthen accordingly to consistently enable us to directly compete against “top teams”. Of course, we will still be pressurised in games and need that defensive discipline and strength but hopefully not forced to sit back for almost the entirety of a game. Imo, because we lost a lot of our attacking impetus, we had to play Nakamba (who did well in his role) and become more defensive to finds a way to get results. Someone who can help control possession and help us retain the ball better would undoubtedly help, maybe Sanson could help…

Several factors kind of derailed and disrupted our season but the loss of Barkley and his subsequent loss of form was a major one. Then losing Jack on top of that “blunted us”.

We were flying until our wings were clipped…

I don’t see any of the midfielders we currently have as technically proficient and highly effective in terms of attacking output - both in providing goals and assists. I don’t see either McGinn or Sanson suited to such a role and having the class or quality to excel in that way, they are more all round, box to box midfielders who can defend and help in attack too.

To have someone capable of regularly playing Ollie in on goal and providing those killer through balls is just what we need. A proper CAM.

Jack would be a great fit there but we need at least one more player in those forward positions to aid us and make us more formidable. 

Buendia, Pereira, even Traore, could interchange and we would have a fluid attack. De Arrascaeta is more of an example of an out and out 10, CAM, rather than a winger (don’t think we will move for him now unless maybe we don’t get our priority targets in).

I would love to see it personally, I want that team that scared the crap out of the league back…

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