Adam2003 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, AV82 said: Unless we beat their wages there’s no reason he picks us over Arsenal, sorry lads. Well and I’d approach this from a slightly different angle which is I can’t imagine we offer him higher wages than Arsenal will. If FFP is still a thing we still have a Championship season dragging our spending limit down. Roll on next summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 5 hours ago, villalad21 said: Whatever you think of Arsenal they did finish avove us, can pay higher wages and have the London pull and we don't have a big name manager. If they really are serious on Buendia i can't see this one happening. I agree - the amount of players these clubs sign and just sideline though.. Do Arsenal need him? Will he be played ahead of others already there? Are these even a factor for players? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Keyblade said: Buendia already proven in the PL. That seems to be very important for our team. Not really - 1 goal 7 assists in the Prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, KangarooVillan said: Not really - 1 goal 7 assists in the Prem 2465 mins is basically 2/3rds of a season. 4th for key passes per game that season behind KDB, Maddison, Grealish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: 4th most key passes per game behind KDB, Maddison, and Grealish in 19/20. He didn't start every game. Only played 2465 mins I don’t disagree - Buendia’s 2nd degree statistics were very good 19/20. I just don’t know how they calculated or how much weight to give them. For example, in 19/20 Buendia averaged 2.3 key passes/game. Kamada in the Bundasliga averaged 1.8 but had 15 assists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Just now, KangarooVillan said: For example, in 19/20 Buendia averaged 2.3 key passes/game. Kamada in the Bundasliga averaged 1.8 but had 15 assists Bundesliga is few elite teams then lower half PL/Championship quality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Bundesliga is few elite teams then lower half PL/Championship quality Understood, my point is more what is a key pass? Buendia had 2.3 pg for 7 assists - Kamada has 1.8 pg for 15 assists. There’s a few ways you could look at it - Buendia’s teammates severely let him down, or, the passes didn’t give his teammates the best chance to score. I don’t know which it is - more these 2nd degree statistics are open to interpretation. Also, regarding only playing 2/3’s of the season, if you extrapolate out its 1.5G and 10.2A, which is very good. Edited June 5, 2021 by KangarooVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, KangarooVillan said: Also, regarding only playing 2/3’s of the season, if you extrapolate out its 1.5G and 10.2A, which is good but is it great? Only 11 players got 11 or more assists in PL last season and mostly big name players. Don't think he scored many goals as had different role in PL compared to more attacking last season in Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Just now, Kiwivillan said: Only 11 players got 11 or more assists in PL last season and mostly big name players. Don't think he scored many goals as had different role in PL compared to more attacking last season in Championship Lol yeah, sorry I changed it - 100% agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Only 11 players got 11 or more assists in PL last season and mostly big name players. Don't think he scored many goals as had different role in PL compared to more attacking last season in Championship I think the frustrating thing is a lot of the people on here who want Buendia also want to get rid of Traore. Traore played 2338 minutes this season - if you applied the same metric he’d have a 10G and 10A season - which is incredible. Also think Buendia plays CAM, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, KangarooVillan said: I think the frustrating thing is a lot of the people on here who want Buendia also want to get rid of Traore. Traore played 2338 minutes this season - if you applied the same metric he’d have a 10G and 10A season - which is incredible. Also think Buendia plays CAM, personally. I would want Buendia for CAM Traore Buendia Grealish Watkins That would be absolute nightmare for teams to defend against 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Key passes = the 'assist' to the missed shot (?) (Correct me if I'm wrong about the key pass) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Just now, Sulberto21 said: Key passes = the 'assist' to the missed shot (?) (Correct me if I'm wrong about the key pass) Yes creating scoring chance. The receiver may fluff the chance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: I would want Buendia for CAM Traore Buendia Grealish Watkins That would be absolute nightmare for teams to defend against My only beef with that setup is a I desperately want Kamada as well and don’t know where he’d fit... would be gorgeous to watch next year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, KangarooVillan said: Lol yeah, sorry I changed it - 100% agree Kiwis and Kangaroos agreeing, seen it all now! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 1 hour ago, KangarooVillan said: I agree - the amount of players these clubs sign and just sideline though.. Do Arsenal need him? Will he be played ahead of others already there? Are these even a factor for players? I think this is potentially our leverage, he would most likely come straight into a starting spot here at 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Kiwis and Kangaroos agreeing, seen it all now! Mutual understanding of Villa games only being played between the hours of 12am and 7am 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I think this is potentially our leverage, he would most likely come straight into a starting spot here at 10 I would hope so - so many players seem to ignore this element though and end up being a Batshuayi, Tuanzebe, Van De Beek, Minamino, Origi, Telles, or an Ake. Like where was Van De Beek, Minamino, Telles and Ake in particular expecting to fit into the respective lineups? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teale's 'tache Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Sulberto21 said: Key passes = the 'assist' to the missed shot (?) (Correct me if I'm wrong about the key pass) Depending on where you get your stats from a key pass can also be an assist to an assist if you get what I mean. So, say they play a through ball to a winger who in turn lays it on a plate for the striker to score, the original ball to the winger can also be considered a key pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 6 hours ago, KangarooVillan said: My only beef with that setup is a I desperately want Kamada as well and don’t know where he’d fit... would be gorgeous to watch next year though. Kamada would probably get in ahead of Traore, but we need someone of that quality on the bench so we can rotate without dropping off. Jack isn’t going to make 38 games next season, we need to recruit for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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