villa4europe Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Thought I'd start the thread seeing as Holland have named their provisional squad 34 man squad, coached by de boer so I'm not sure it matters... They have so many exciting young players but hardly any of them have made it, koopmeiners, wijndal, timber, Gravenberch, malen are in but boadu, ihatteren, botman and stengs all miss out (and I'd assume are straight on to their agents trying to get transfers this summer) not a clue where kluivert is They're in group C with Ukraine, Macedonia and Austria so you'd still say they should top that group As per his own thread Anwar has made it and I think he might have a chance of making the cut too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 As mentioned previously, I've got 4 tickets for England vs Scotland. Its 5 weeks away and we still have no idea if we are going or not! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 I was eying it up to come home for the weekend but that's not going to happen Will be an incredible game down the pub let alone in the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted May 15, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted May 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Thought I'd start the thread seeing as Holland have named their provisional squad 34 man squad, coached by de boer so I'm not sure it matters... They have so many exciting young players but hardly any of them have made it, koopmeiners, wijndal, timber, Gravenberch, malen are in but boadu, ihatteren, botman and stengs all miss out (and I'd assume are straight on to their agents trying to get transfers this summer) not a clue where kluivert is They're in group C with Ukraine, Macedonia and Austria so you'd still say they should top that group As per his own thread Anwar has made it and I think he might have a chance of making the cut too Hasn't the Dutch manager been really shit since he took over? Their were talks of Robben getting a call up since he played for Groningen at the weekend but that didn't happen, and on a personal level I'm fuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Hope Anwar makes it but yeah there's not a chance Holland will do well in this competition. De Boer makes Southgate look like a managerial genius. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, VillaAlex said: Hope Anwar makes it but yeah there's not a chance Holland will do well in this competition. De Boer makes Southgate look like a managerial genius. He be sacked and Koeman will return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Open tournament with France and England favourites but both have weaknesses. Germany, Belgium Portugal and Spain might challenge but have issues and Croatia have got old. Italy are under the radar and no players in the major finals could help them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, Zatman said: Open tournament with France and England favourites but both have weaknesses. Germany, Belgium Portugal and Spain might challenge but have issues and Croatia have got old. Italy are under the radar and no players in the major finals could help them I think it might be Belgiums time myself depending on the fitness of key players. england should be well in it but i dont trust Southagte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Who will be the surprise package given last tournament Iceland made quarters and Wales made SF? Haven't looked at the predicted squads but got a feeling Ukraine might do well and go under the radar. Shevchenko been really good as manager, getting them out of tough euros group comfortably and they drew 1-1 away to France in world cup qualifiers in March. They're in probably the weakest group and avoid all the main teams so real chance to get through comfortably and build momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 England will go out in the 2nd round imo Win the group and get 2nd place from the group with Germany, France, Portugal and Hungary, 2 of those 4 beat us comfortably, a game vs a "weak" Germany would be fun Germany will be interesting in general, low is going, there's a huge managerial merry go round already agreed for the summer, the squad isn't great or any better than the one that was poor at the world cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, VillaChris said: Who will be the surprise package given last tournament Iceland made quarters and Wales made SF? Haven't looked at the predicted squads but got a feeling Ukraine might do well and go under the radar. Shevchenko been really good as manager, getting them out of tough euros group comfortably and they drew 1-1 away to France in world cup qualifiers in March. They're in probably the weakest group and avoid all the main teams so real chance to get through comfortably and build momentum. North Macedonia with the mighty Göran Pandev Scotland could shock people, Turkey area dangerous team similar with Poland. Maybe it came a year too late for Finland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, PaulC said: I think it might be Belgiums time myself depending on the fitness of key players. england should be well in it but i dont trust Southagte Belgium defence is past it imo, Vertonghen massively declined last few years and Toby gone same last 18 months and can only play well if Spurs park their defence on 18 yard box, I assume Martinez still pushes his defence high up so that's asking for trouble. Given Hazard is also non factor currently it's simply on De Bruyne and Lukaku to be really good. If either are under par I don't think Belgium will get past quarters. Got an England 2006 feel about them now with many of their key players 30 or over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, PaulC said: I think it might be Belgiums time myself depending on the fitness of key players. england should be well in it but i dont trust Southagte Not sure outside De Bruyne amd Lukaku none have had really brilliant seasons. Defence is really weak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, Zatman said: North Macedonia with the mighty Göran Pandev Scotland could shock people, Turkey area dangerous team similar with Poland. Maybe it came a year too late for Finland Yes Turkey had some really good results in last 18 months aswell and got a decent spine. ALways been an odd team historically, don't tend to get to many tournaments but when they do they massively overachieve e.g. 3rd place in 2002 world cup and then made euro 2008 SF where Germany only narrowly beat them. Then hardly made a tournament in last 10 years, bit of a european Uruguay. Think Wales are in a really tough group to get out of this time, Italy will surely win it and I think they'll struggle to beat Turkey and also Swiss who are an established tournament team who know how to get out of groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, Zatman said: Not sure outside De Bruyne amd Lukaku none have had really brilliant seasons. Defence is really weak Will Hazard come back fresh. Yes still beat England and I think time is running out for their golden generation so could be there last chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: England will go out in the 2nd round imo Win the group and get 2nd place from the group with Germany, France, Portugal and Hungary, 2 of those 4 beat us comfortably, a game vs a "weak" Germany would be fun Germany will be interesting in general, low is going, there's a huge managerial merry go round already agreed for the summer, the squad isn't great or any better than the one that was poor at the world cup I honestly think England would beat Germany this time but of course you know the mental stuff and build up will mean going 1-0 down before kick off. As much as England backline is weak the german one really isn't that much better at all. Need to avoid France at all costs in last 16 as that's team England would have 0% of beating, very solid backline, very physical and mobile midfield who can overpower England and ridiculous pace on counter attack with Mbappe. France remain favourites for me to repeat what they did between 1998-2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Yeah France have the depth that no one else does in pretty much every position and seemingly no real dependency on certain players If we win the group and they win the group then it'll be final only vs them at a guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) Zlatan out of the Euro's, Alexander Isak also doubtful and Sebastian Andersson already ruled out. Not looking great upfront for Sweden with only the ageing Markus Berg and Robin Quaison who's been injured for most of the season. Guess it means Jesper Karlsson from AZ and Jordan (son of Henrik) Larsson will be going to the Euro's. Edited May 15, 2021 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) If Grealish plays it will be his tournament. His mentality has improved sooo much he's definitely an elite player. Him and Foden to lead England to a glorious triumph. Edited May 15, 2021 by Sulberto21 Bleeding autocorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 43 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: If Grealish plays it will be his tournament. His mentality has improved sooo much he's definitely an elite player. Him and Foden to lead England to a glorious triumph. 0% chance of Jack starting. I mean it was seriously in doubt when he was one of best players in league in November and he's just been out for three months while Foden and Mount have really stepped up and secured starting spots. And Southgate will still start at least one of Rashford/Sterling although more on reputation than any great form. Could still do a Platt in Italia 90 though, coming in during the tournment if England have dodgy group stage or lose a player or two to injury as things go on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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