Mark Albrighton Posted May 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, est1874 said: Bit of an obnoxious comment this, to be fair. Of course I'll be annoyed if Arsenal win and finish above us, and based on all remaining fixtures I believe they will, too. I don't know what I'll be doing tomorrow or whether I'll be free to watch the Arsenal game in the evening, it may rest on how I feel about football after seeing our performance earlier in the evening. Why do you imagine I only care about Leeds? It's a bit odd that you seem to be particularly bothered about what I think of them. Because you seem a bit vexed about them “proving they’re a better team than us”. It’s quite apparent that some on here measure Villa’s season this year by the metric of Leeds United. As for reminiscing about top half finishes. As @villa4europe says, people generally don’t look back wistfully and think “Ah, 9th place, what a good season that was” or alternative “Urgh, 11th...disaster.” Villa finished 5th in 1996/97. Obviously a good season. I can’t remember a single thing about it. Completely overshadowed by the previous year. If things go to plan, as we all hope they do, when reminiscing in 30 years time, this season in all likelihood is not really going to register with the vast majority. This season will be remembered for Aston Villa 7-2 Liverpool. That’s pretty much it. And where we are now, that’s fine with me. Edited May 8, 2021 by Mark Albrighton 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Nineth or higher represents a better season than finishing eleventh, not sure why people are arguing any different. The idea that in ten years time people won't look back and not be bothered whether we finish tenth or eleventh shoudn't have anything to do with it, what on earth does that matter, we're not aiming to make history, we're just aiming to finish as high up the table as possible. Smith himself has said the target is to finish top half, again we want to acheive that becase doing so is better than finishing the bottom half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, est1874 said: Bit of an obnoxious comment this, to be fair. Of course I'll be annoyed if Arsenal win and finish above us, and based on all remaining fixtures I believe they will, too. I don't know what I'll be doing tomorrow or whether I'll be free to watch the Arsenal game in the evening, it may rest on how I feel about football after seeing our performance earlier in the afternoon. Why do you imagine I only care about Leeds? It's a bit odd that you seem to be particularly bothered about what I think of them. Because you’re taking about how much better than us they are despite us having slightly more points per game, and then saying they will finish above us based on because you think so. You’re admiring them winning football matches against Tottenham (without a manager) when we’ve beat Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal twice, Leicester, drawn with Chelsea and uh... beat Leeds. Youre making the comparison bud. I don’t give a **** about them other than acknowledging they’re doing about as well as we are in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Leeds are just as likely to go and lose their so called easier games that they have coming up, I said that before they played Brighton, which is exactly what happened, so I wouldn't rule us out finishing above them. We can still catch Everton as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Leeds have a much easier run in. They'll probably finish above us Ah you’re up @villalad21 mate! Has anyone ever seen @Rino8 and @villalad21 in the same room at the same time 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2021 Ohh, ohh.... Benteke has scored a deflected goal... BRING HIM HOME IMMEDIATELY. Imagine the roar of the Holte when he comes on etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, sidcow said: Ohh, ohh.... Benteke has scored a deflected goal... BRING HIM HOME IMMEDIATELY. Imagine the roar of the Holte when he comes on etc. Probably his best scoring season since 2017, must've scored 6 or 7 this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 58 minutes ago, useless said: Of course finising top half matters, Dean Smith himself said in his interview yesterday that that's our aim. People saying it doesn't matter now, but I'm sure if we manage it they will bring it up often enough in praise of Smith and how far he's brought us, suddenly a top half finish will matter and mean something then. We're allowed to set targets, it seems some are scared to have any kind of ambition because if it doesn't work out it will somehow reflect badly on the manager. Not going to lie I’d be bringing up us finishing in 12th place in praise of Smith. The improvement from last season is clear and sticking a 9th or a 12th next to our name doesn’t make me change my mind on the progress we’ve made. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 43 minutes ago, useless said: The whole point of competing in the league is to finish as high as possible, if you're going to say that it dosesn't matter if we finish 11th or 9th then when does it stop, going by that logic you might as well say that there's no difference between finishing seventh or seventeenth because you don't win or lose anything in either scenario, would be no point in most teams even taking part in the season. A top half finish would be symbolic as much as anything else, the last time we managed it was ten years ago, if we don't do it not the end of the world, but something to aim and hope for in the mean time. I absolutely agree with the 2nd paragraph. I'm not in agreement with the first. 9th or 11th is basically the same season. 17th is a very different season in terms of enjoyment and positives for the future. 17th and 9th technically don't matter, you're still a premier league team, but this season has been a hell of a lot better than the last. When people say it doesn't matter if we slip out the top half, it's in relation to this season. Finishing 9th or 11th doesn't change the great wins and the shit losses. Its basically the same year, there will be a handful of points difference I'd imagine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 43 minutes ago, sidcow said: Ohh, ohh.... Benteke has scored a deflected goal... BRING HIM HOME IMMEDIATELY. Imagine the roar of the Holte when he comes on etc. I would genuinely love to see the guy in a villa shirt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2021 47 minutes ago, useless said: Nineth or higher represents a better season than finishing eleventh, not sure why people are arguing any different. The idea that in ten years time people won't look back and not be bothered whether we finish tenth or eleventh shoudn't have anything to do with it, what on earth does that matter, we're not aiming to make history, we're just aiming to finish as high up the table as possible. Smith himself has said the target is to finish top half, again we want to acheive that becase doing so is better than finishing the bottom half. Because if you read back, a poster was saying it’s important to finish in the top half to allow for better memories. The discussion followed on from that. Are people bothered that Villa finished 9th in the Houllier season? Does it bother them that it wasn’t 8th? I would very much doubt it. And I think it’s fairly obvious that no one is stating that finishing 9th isn’t better than finishing 11th. Some of us are just of the opinion that a difference of two mid table positions is not that crucial to the overall progress of the club at this stage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mark Albrighton said: Because if you read back, a poster was saying it’s important to finish in the top half to allow for better memories. The discussion followed on from that. Are people bothered that Villa finished 9th in the Houllier season? Does it bother them that it wasn’t 8th? I would very much doubt it. And I think it’s fairly obvious that no one is stating that finishing 9th isn’t better than finishing 11th. Some of us are just of the opinion that a difference of two mid table positions is not that crucial to the overall progress of the club at this stage. The houllier season is a great example. Look back and you see 9th. Remember the actual season and it was poor, somehow jumping into the top half with 2 wins in the final games. That season isn't massively better because of those two games. Likewise, this season doesn't turn into a disaster if we stay 11th. Edited May 8, 2021 by DCJonah 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: I would genuinely love to see the guy in a villa shirt again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, sidcow said: I know it would be a waste of money and end in disaster but I can't help myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Chelsea and Man city gone for some wacky line -up's and formations. Man city looks like a 3-3-3-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Looks almost like they're trying to give each other nothing to go on for the CL final City could and probably will rotate that attack and it could be deadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, KAZZAM said: Chelsea and Man city gone for some wacky line -up's and formations. Man city looks like a 3-3-3-1. Yeah but citeh's 3-3-3-1 normally plays like a 2-5-5-5-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 More I see that sterling tackle and the slower it gets the worse it looks In real time it looked a good tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 How is that not a red for Sterling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 8, 2021 Moderator Share Posted May 8, 2021 A player that isn't Raheem Sterling gets sent off for that. A Sheffield United defender definitely does. Now personally, I think a yellow card is the right decision, but it's the inconsistency in bot the refereeing and in the VAR that's annoying. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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