Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted May 7, 2021 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: I went for the greens Cant stomach the two main parties. Both absolutely pathetic Sadiq Khan is right on the edge of losing the London Mayoral race to Shaun Bailey - if you'd voted for Bailey it could have made the difference! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 7, 2021 Moderator Share Posted May 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, Xela said: Maybe Starmer needs to do a similar video. Yeah but he'd miss the point and it would have high production values and it would fail completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, bickster said: Have they? The voted in a man in a monkey suit (the football club mascot) who stood as a joke for Mayor for three mayoral election cycles Best primate for the job! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Looking to be close to no change for the Senedd. Possibly Plaid down a couple, Tories up a couple, Labour unchanged, but nothing like the shift to blue being seen elsewhere, UKIP / Reform / Abolish appear to have split the BritNat nutter vote to an extent potentially none of them will get a single regional / proportional seat. Which would be really quite nice. Looks like Lib Dem’s in a similar position, they’ve probably lost their last remaining seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Sadiq Khan is right on the edge of losing the London Mayoral race to Shaun Bailey - if you'd voted for Bailey it could have made the difference! I think it'll be largely the same margin as last time, ie not particularly close. Inner London areas have barely started counting yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: Sadiq Khan is right on the edge of losing the London Mayoral race to Shaun Bailey - if you'd voted for Bailey it could have made the difference! Bailey isnt winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 56 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I think it'll be largely the same margin as last time, ie not particularly close. Inner London areas have barely started counting yet. This unfortunately. Another 3 years of khan. Ergh. Cant he just get another job in the labour party for the love of god 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brumstopdogs Posted May 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2021 21 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: This unfortunately. Another 3 years of khan. Ergh. Cant he just get another job in the labour party for the love of god Bit harsh - deserves some credit for all the improvements to transport... Spoiler 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: Bit harsh - deserves some credit for all the improvements to transport... Reveal hidden contents Can i send him to your town? Im sure you will love all the improvements Edited May 7, 2021 by Demitri_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Can i send him to your town? Im sure you will love all the improvements Out of curiosity (genuinely), how does the Green policy on transport vary from Labour in London? I can’t imagine they are more pro car? Did you like that they were for cheaper or expanded public transport or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 10 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Out of curiosity (genuinely), how does the Green policy on transport vary from Labour in London? I can’t imagine they are more pro car? Did you like that they were for cheaper or expanded public transport or something? They were against LTNs believe it or not. But it was more a protest vote at how the shit the two main parties are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted May 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 On 06/05/2021 at 22:31, bickster said: Not as dumb as FPTP, I'd take it further and go full STV for elections. Limiting it to first and second pref only is just wilfully limiting, though currently in this country going past second prefs is unlikely, its the principal of it. Having two columns is also dumb, I'm sure the electorate can be trusted to write 1 2 3 4 etc in one column. If they can't do that correctly it'll only rule out Tory votes anyway On 06/05/2021 at 22:38, HanoiVillan said: Do you mean STV, or ranked choice/instant runoff? I agree that ranked choice would be better, as you say there's no need to limit people to two preferences, and in practice doing so is just a gift to Labour and the Tories as it allows them to field inept candidates that barely scrape a plurality, knowing they will gather all the second preferences. Supplementary vote seems to exist in this weird gap halfway between first past the post and ranked choice, without the benefit of either but being 'simpler' (I don't actually agree that it's simpler than ranked choice, but people seem to feel it is). I had missed this @bickster, but apparently the Tories have decided to ditch the supplementary vote system for mayoral and PCC elections from now on: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 We had a strange quirk where 16 and 17 year olds could vote - but not for PCC’s, so they only got 2 ballot papers to fill in, where everyone 18 plus got 3 ballot papers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: We had a strange quirk where 16 and 17 year olds could vote - but not for PCC’s, so they only got 2 ballot papers to fill in, where everyone 18 plus got 3 ballot papers. 'come on now kids, we trust you, but not *that* much . . . there's a PCC election on the line!' 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8, 2021 WM Mayor has to be decided on second choices. I have no idea what this means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 8, 2021 Moderator Share Posted May 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, sidcow said: WM Mayor has to be decided on second choices. I have no idea what this means. It means no one made 50% on the first choice ballot - which given Street's expected win is almost some sort of victory in itself for Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 8, 2021 Moderator Share Posted May 8, 2021 Street got 48.9% apparently so it was close to being won on first votes with Byrne on 39.7%. I'd still expect Street to come through. London is closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 I got very confused when I saw on the Birmingham mail that Bryne had one the first round. Then I realised this was for Birmingham only which is a fairly pointless headline. Labour are actually regressing in the last 4 years. The west midlands is nearly all blue now apart from areas right in the city centres. I am in favour of any system other than first past the post which of course massively helps the Tories. In Worcestershire for example the Tories got slightly less than 50% of the vote, and nearly 80% of all the seats (45 out of 57). How is that democratic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 28 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Street got 48.9% apparently so it was close to being won on first votes with Byrne on 39.7%. I'd still expect Street to come through. London is closer. Its incredible on this site being a west midland area is pro labour but conservatives are doing well there, yet in london labour is doing better. You lot need to move to london! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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