zab6359 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Start of a tough May. On paper just the Crystal Palace game where we would be expected to get any points with all those other teams trying to secure European places. Everton aren't unbeatable but are a better team than us on their day and we haven't really been turning up lately. Feeling optimistic though and think we might surprise them and come away with the 3 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Tough one to call. This fixture is interesting as we have to play them twice before the end of the season. We need to get hold of the midfield better and protect Martinez, he is having to make way too many saves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Everton's form as of late hasn't exactly been glowing either so this could be a bit of a surprise game. I think we have a good chance at getting the full 3pts here if we are fired up for it. Let's hope the players feel like we deserved more from WBA and go into this game with something to prove. I believe that will make all the difference right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Season is pretty much over so maybe we should experiment a bit Martinez Konsa Hause Mings Cash. Luiz. Mcginn. Targett Barkley Watkins. Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 27, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 27, 2021 We'll have Cash back for this one, so I'd guess the back five picks itself: --------------------------------Martinez------------------------------------- Cash-------------Konsa-------------Mings------------------Targett And then it becomes a matter of whether we stick with the two wingers without Jack and Trez or mix things up a bit - personally I'd mix things up, but I think Dean Smith will stay with the shape - so: -----------------------Luiz----------------McGinn------------------------- Traore---------------------Barkley----------------------------El Ghazi -------------------------------Watkins---------------------------------------- bench of: Heaton, Taylor, Elmohamady, Hause, Engels, Nakamba, Ramsey, Davis, Wesley There's no real wide option on the bench which would mean if Traore comes off we'd have to move maybe Cash there and bring on Elmo and if El Ghazi went dow we'd possibly move Watkins - neither of those options are ideal, but I can't see us dropping Wesley off the bench for JPB - I think the psychological benefit to Wesley (and the others) of his return trumps any tactical benefit. tldr; same as. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 I know they are in a good position in the league but after watching their recent games i've not been impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) Seems like Everton haven't won at home since Duncan Ferguson played for them so think we know what's happening here. They've got most of their first choice back fit again aswell so bad timing and win at Arsenal pushes them back properly into top 6 fight. 3-1 defeat. Davis really should start imo, can't see any logic for Traore to start and Barkley didn't do enough for me although possible DS will keep him in given how many former players score v their ex clubs, will probably score the match winning OG given how it's gone for him since mid Jan! I'd also be starting Ramsey as think just two in CM is asking for trouble as would mean Rodriguez gets too much space between midfield and back 4. Need Doug to do a good job on him in this one and starve Richarlison and DCL of decent throughballs. Edited April 27, 2021 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 56 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Seems like Everton haven't won at home since Duncan Ferguson played for them so think we know what's happening here. They've got most of their first choice back fit again aswell so bad timing and win at Arsenal pushes them back properly into top 6 fight. 3-1 defeat. Davis really should start imo, can't see any logic for Traore to start and Barkley didn't do enough for me although possible DS will keep him in given how many former players score v their ex clubs, will probably score the match winning OG given how it's gone for him since mid Jan! I'd also be starting Ramsey as think just two in CM is asking for trouble as would mean Rodriguez gets too much space between midfield and back 4. Need Doug to do a good job on him in this one and starve Richarlison and DCL of decent throughballs. Davis deserves a start but he won't. We all know he won't, sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 7 hours ago, villalad21 said: Davis deserves a start but he won't. We all know he won't, sadly. Doesn't deserve a start but deserves to come on earlier if things are going to plan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 8 hours ago, zab6359 said: Doesn't deserve a start but deserves to come on earlier if things are going to plan. He deserves a start over Traore for sure - and a couple of others. The problem is unless we change formation or Watkins plays wider (or Davis does) then he ain't going to play. I am in the "we've nothing to lose" camp and we should experiment a little but I don't think it will happen and it will be the tried and tested 4-3-3. I personally think its either Barkley or Traore as they both offer very little without the ball - And Ross actually played ok against WBA so he would get the nod for me. So.... Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Targett, Watkins, Ramsey, McGinn, Barkley, El Ghazi, Davis. Prediction - another Desmond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Most played fixture in the top flight, rah-rah-rah and all that jazz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Raver50032 said: Most played fixture in the top flight, rah-rah-rah and all that jazz... Pretty incredible how close it is in terms of wins when it goes over 200+ games. You'd think one of the teams would have pulled away at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, WakefieldVillan said: He deserves a start over Traore for sure - and a couple of others. The problem is unless we change formation or Watkins plays wider (or Davis does) then he ain't going to play. I am in the "we've nothing to lose" camp and we should experiment a little but I don't think it will happen and it will be the tried and tested 4-3-3. I personally think its either Barkley or Traore as they both offer very little without the ball - And Ross actually played ok against WBA so he would get the nod for me. So.... Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Targett, Watkins, Ramsey, McGinn, Barkley, El Ghazi, Davis. Prediction - another Desmond. No chance! One of the few flair players we have on the pitch without Jack madness to drop Traore for KD. And I like KD! Edited April 28, 2021 by zab6359 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 On 27/04/2021 at 20:55, OutByEaster? said: We'll have Cash back for this one, so I'd guess the back five picks itself: --------------------------------Martinez------------------------------------- Cash-------------Konsa-------------Mings------------------Targett And then it becomes a matter of whether we stick with the two wingers without Jack and Trez or mix things up a bit - personally I'd mix things up, but I think Dean Smith will stay with the shape - so: -----------------------Luiz----------------McGinn------------------------- Traore---------------------Barkley----------------------------El Ghazi -------------------------------Watkins---------------------------------------- bench of: Heaton, Taylor, Elmohamady, Hause, Engels, Nakamba, Ramsey, Davis, Wesley There's no real wide option on the bench which would mean if Traore comes off we'd have to move maybe Cash there and bring on Elmo and if El Ghazi went dow we'd possibly move Watkins - neither of those options are ideal, but I can't see us dropping Wesley off the bench for JPB - I think the psychological benefit to Wesley (and the others) of his return trumps any tactical benefit. tldr; same as. I'd go with this too. Maybe too soon to start Wes up front with Watkins but that'd be something I wouldn't mind seeing before the season is out. Tough game this, but could see us grabbing a point. 1-1 Traore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, zab6359 said: No chance! One of the few flair players we have on the pitch without Jack madness to drop Traore for KD. And I like KD! when flair don't work....work beats flair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I would like to see Carney sniffing around the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I would start with Davis and play Watkins where El Ghazi plays and then just Cash to come back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, TRO said: when flair don't work....work beats flair. It does and that why I like Trez. Davis deserves a start and its a toss up which wide player make way but Watkins I think would be better on the left than the right so Traore keeps his place for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, PaulC said: It does and that why I like Trez. Davis deserves a start and its a toss up which wide player make way but Watkins I think would be better on the left than the right so Traore keeps his place for now. The problem is Paul, when you labour, the point about work rate, like me, folk think you don't favour flair, nothing could be further from the truth. When you watch games in the Premier League, running is a major feature of everything that good comes from....and I mean hard running in to dangerous spaces, not idle minded running in to space to avoid contact...chasing lost causes etc. I am not sure about starting, but he needs more game time to progress.....and we are not exactly stuck for who to take off, judging by so many indifferent performances. Edited April 29, 2021 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, TRO said: The problem is Paul, when you labour, the point about work rate, like me, folk think you don't favour flair, nothing could be further from the truth. When you watch games in the Premier League, running is a major feature of everything that good comes from....and I mean hard running in to dangerous spaces, not idle minded running in to space to avoid contact...chasing last causes etc. I am not sure about starting, but he needs more game time to progress. Oops sorry for the duplication....pressed quote instead of edit. Edited April 28, 2021 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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