Keyblade Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I'm still laughing at Spurs being in this and then releasing that arrogant statement. Lads it's Tottenham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 This is absolutely mental. We’ve always had rumours about stuff like this but never did I think they’d go through with it all. I haven’t quite got to grips with it all yet but what I’ll say is and as unbelievable it would be, I just don’t see there being any chance the so called ‘big 6’ are kicked out the Prem. I just don’t see it whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 With all the money and cheating involved in football plus the joke that is VAR. I think a lot if football fans are at a stage that they will give it up from the "top" table. This could be the last straw Which when fans return might benefit lower league clubs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I think people are missing the point, talking about which players would or wouldn't want to be in it . . . as far as I can see, it almost doesn't matter; if this goes ahead, we will need players to either leave for it, ot voluntarily take a *massive* pay cut. We would not only want Grealish to leave, but need him to leave. With the next TV deal worth pennies on the pound, and the club already operating at a huge loss, we are going to need to sell everything that isn't nailed down, and find the best players we can who'll do it for less than £10k/week or whatever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted April 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: Do you think this is why they are timing the announcement now? Ahead of the summer transfer windows? Whether it goes ahead or not, whilst it is up in the air, will our owners or Everton’s owners or Leeds owners want to plough another £100mil into transfers when it is clear we can’t achieve our ultimate goals? Will players like Grealish, Calvert-Lewin, Raphinia start jumping ship to make sure they are part of it? It is crucial that UEFA and the PL play hardball and stand by their threats to boot them out the PL and Champions League and do it ASAP (preferably before we have to play City on Wednesday). The timing is so because they were supposed to announce changes to the CL and Europa cup today. They announced it on Sunday to jump the gun on that. It’s no coincidence this is happening now, during Covid and at a time where clubs like Everton, Villa, Leeds, Leicester and West Ham are chasing down the elite clubs. It’s done to protect their revenues but it’s badly misinformed. I genuinely don’t think the clubs believe they’ll face any sanctions if it goes ahead. How can you be so arrogant as to think you can play in the PL whilst also being a part of a ‘Super League’ that guarantees you 300m more than everyone else, every year? Are these people stupid? It simply can’t be allowed to happen otherwise the PL, the EFL, it’s all dead. There is no point to it. What’s the point in doing well? Will we invest another 100m this summer? There is no end goal for the ambitious owners now. These clubs have to be expelled from the PL and UEFA comps. English football will be a lot worse off either way. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I wonder how it just feel for the players of those clubs. Breaking away from all the history and tradition, to something nobody is sure is going to last even a year. Harry Kane for example could have been the all time leading scorer in PL and England history if he continued playing, but all that is put to an abrupt halt. Will just be a footnote in ESL history if it even lasts long enough to have a history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheVilla26 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Not read all the ins and outs of this proposed joke league but I can guarantee that, when all the arguing and finger pointing is done, it boils down to money - how much more money these greedy clubs can make themselves and how further can they exploit the fans - the same fans they've all been 'claiming' football ain't the same without. Seriously, I hope they all get booted out the League, football would go on in England without them 6 clubs, if anything it'd probably improve it as it would be more competitive and enjoyable to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 This whole fiasco is a disgraceful nail in the coffin for football. I just pray that FIFA, UEFA, the FAs and The Premier League unite and make it impossible for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: The timing is so because they were supposed to announce changes to the CL and Europa cup today. They announced it on Sunday to jump the gun on that. It’s no coincidence this is happening now, during Covid and at a time where clubs like Everton, Villa, Leeds, Leicester and West Ham are chasing down the elite clubs. It’s done to protect their revenues but it’s badly misinformed. I genuinely don’t think the clubs believe they’ll face any sanctions if it goes ahead. How can you be so arrogant as to think you can play in the PL whilst also being a part of a ‘Super League’ that guarantees you 300m more than everyone else, every year? Are these people stupid? It simply can’t be allowed to happen otherwise the PL, the EFL, it’s all dead. There is no point to it. What’s the point in doing well? Will we invest another 100m this summer? There is no end goal for the ambitious owners now. These clubs have to be expelled from the PL and UEFA comps. English football will be a lot worse off either way. Also on the timing, it suits them perfectly that there are no fans in stadiums now. Can you imagine the uproar in stadiums! Now they get to ignore the dissent and dismiss it as just noise on the internet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I think people are missing the point, talking about which players would or wouldn't want to be in it . . . as far as I can see, it almost doesn't matter; if this goes ahead, we will need players to either leave for it, ot voluntarily take a *massive* pay cut. We would not only want Grealish to leave, but need him to leave. With the next TV deal worth pennies on the pound, and the club already operating at a huge loss, we are going to need to sell everything that isn't nailed down, and find the best players we can who'll do it for less than £10k/week or whatever. I think the current "also rans" will have short term pain but long term the Super League will be the bigger financial mess I just think people will get bored seeing the same games with nothing to show for it unless they bring in playoffs at the end of the season. If go by the current Premier League with Super League rules then City won the title in February, the rest of the teams would be just playing out time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: Also on the timing, it suits them perfectly that there are no fans in stadiums now. Can you imagine the uproar in stadiums! Now they get to ignore the dissent and dismiss it as just noise on the internet. They are bringing in Steve Bruce as spokesman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Ban them all. I went to bed thinking it wouldn’t happen or there was a last minute hitch. Football is better off without these ghouls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 hours ago, ozvillafan said: - Some clubs didn't survive the process, and completely disappeared. Others "amalgamated" (could you imagine Villa merging with Blues??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I bet this ESL won’t have FFP restrictions. It’ll be a billionaires play ground. I’m surprised none of these big clubs are ran by someone with ethics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Farlz said: This is absolutely mental. We’ve always had rumours about stuff like this but never did I think they’d go through with it all. I haven’t quite got to grips with it all yet but what I’ll say is and as unbelievable it would be, I just don’t see there being any chance the so called ‘big 6’ are kicked out the Prem. I just don’t see it whatsoever. I dunno. I don't think it's likely they can take the money, cause heaps of trouble and stay in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: I think the current "also rans" will have short term pain but long term the Super League will be the bigger financial mess I just think people will get bored seeing the same games with nothing to show for it unless they bring in playoffs at the end of the season. If go by the current Premier League with Super League rules then City won the title in February, the rest of the teams would be just playing out time What would even be the point of all that? At this point it doesn't even resemble football anymore. No promotion or relegation, no European football, it's all a race for 1 position, which will end early. If there's no playoffs like the MLS there would be no point watching it, because it's boring as hell. The whole reason football is such a cash cow is because so many people love it, even in its current mangled corrupted state. Take that away and you have nothing. The greed is just off the charts here. Edited April 19, 2021 by Keyblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Zatman said: I think the current "also rans" will have short term pain but long term the Super League will be the bigger financial mess I just think people will get bored seeing the same games with nothing to show for it unless they bring in playoffs at the end of the season. If go by the current Premier League with Super League rules then City won the title in February, the rest of the teams would be just playing out time I'm prepared to believe that long-term, a post-restructuring domestic British league would be in a more sustainable place in terms of its costs via wages. But the short-term challenge will be to avoid 30 or 40 bankruptcies of the remaining teams in the PL and most of the Championship, very much including ourselves, and the big problem 'we' (as a collective) have is that there's only *maybe* 15 clubs to sell players into and everyone is going to need to be selling their most valuable assets, which will drive down prices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I know it’s been said before, but it’s absolutely tragic that this ‘European Super League’ contains 6 English teams. Assuming they get their 20 names, that’s still 1/3 and and 40% of the total at 15. Sky and others helped stroke the delusional ego of these clubs. The chickens come home to roost now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Even if this a ploy for these clubs to get more control over the CL, they should be punished. Bullying tactics by greedy pricks who don’t give a shit about the fans. Only reason I can’t see it as just a ploy is because shit clubs like Arsenal and Spurs are in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted April 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, The_Steve said: I know it’s been said before, but it’s absolutely tragic that this ‘European Super League’ contains 6 English teams. Assuming they get their 20 names, that’s still 1/3 and and 40% of the total at 15. Sky and others helped stroke the delusional ego of these clubs. The chickens come home to roost now. What's interesting is there's already an established big 6 in the proposed league who get more money than the rest. That won't be 6 English teams. Give it another 10 or 20 years and there'll be discussions on creating a brand new European Super Duper League of just 6 teams getting even more money and control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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