OutByEaster? Posted April 18, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 18, 2021 Apparently City are part of the group but haven't ratified - keeping a foot in both camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, OutByEaster? said: Notable that PSG and Bayern are the two clubs that are least affected by huge debts of the biggest clubs. They're not quite so desperate as to have to be involved. Levy, Woodward, Venkatesham, Soriano, Laurence and Peter Moore should all be banned by UEFA from all football activities permanently off the back of this. Given that both Barca and Real get €321.8m tv money (roughly 1/3 of the income for 50 clubs) and still racked up huge debts, they could easily sell their respective 4 fixutres for double that. It would make the bubble even bigger and encourage further debt. Ban them all tbh. How can you trust them when they've been plotting behind the scenes like this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maxjackle Posted April 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2021 I'm firmly in the kick them out camp. The league would have less money, but it still would get a decent TV deal and there would be a readjustment on wages, fees etc. It would work itself out. Whereas if these teams get to play in this sponsored closed shop it is the competitive end for every other team domestically. I also think they over rate their worth. I didn't watch the premier League when we were in the champ, and I bet a lot of fans won't watch this super League of it's something they never have a hope of taking part in. Yes the plastics in Malaysia, but the English fans across the country won't. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Neville calling for a points deduction for the "big six", would love that 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, OutByEaster? said: Apparently City are part of the group but haven't ratified - keeping a foot in both camps. What does 'ratified' mean here? I doubt anything has happened that can't and won't be rowed back on in the next 24 hours, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I think UEFA and others are over-estimating the appeal of international football versus the appeal of this league plus the ridiculous wages on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Demote all clubs involved. Litigate the crap out of them. While the world is burning around them these scumbags are only thinking about themselves and their own pockets. Disgusting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Apparently City are part of the group but haven't ratified - keeping a foot in both camps. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Would love to hear what Wes Edens stance on this is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 18, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, OutByEaster? said: These aren't sporting decisions - competitive versus guaranteed huge incomes isn't a contest that they spend a lot of time worrying about. They'd be guaranteed a share of a third of the ownership as a founder team, then a share of the next third based on merit, then a bit more based on which of the brands brings most to the league. It's barely sport. But it will ultimately erode income I think as soon as the order becomes set in stone. Competition is the essence of sport. As soon as the sport becomes pointless people wl switch off and the money trap will dry up. At least the Americans understand that point although they have the luxury of being able to isolate their sports. But they understand one or 2 clubs dominating is ultimately not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted April 18, 2021 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2021 Gary Neville: "European Super League, are Arsenal in that?! They've just drawn with Fulham." 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Gary Neville is class. He's trashing every one of these 'big' clubs. There's nothing big about trying to keep the money in your own bank when you're not entitled to it. Guaranteed income is not a good thing for sports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 18, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, sidcow said: But it will ultimately erode income I think as soon as the order becomes set in stone. Competition is the essence of sport. As soon as the sport becomes pointless people wl switch off and the money trap will dry up. At least the Americans understand that point although they have the luxury of being able to isolate their sports. But they understand one or 2 clubs dominating is ultimately not a good thing. I guess the thing for these clubs is that none of those clubs would become uncompetitive - within the bubble of that league, the income is spread and the spending is controlled - no one can come in from outside with a load of cash and upset things - they don't have to worry about a new PSG or a new City or Newcastle getting their deal with the Saudi's, they just won't invite Newcastle. Meanwhile, the twelve founder teams become both rich and profitable and can stay competitive because the playing field within the bubble is controlled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Ban all players at these clubs from taking part in WC's Euro's and everything else that is FIFA/UEFA sanctioned. Men and women. It will totally rip football apart but since we are going that route anyway who cares. Players will go where the money is and in time they will start hosting their own World Championship of Soccer featuring commercial breaks and sponsored VAR challenges and All Star Games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 18, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: What does 'ratified' mean here? I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 What happens to the clubs if JP Morgan pulls the £4-6bn plug due to a Covid variant prolonging the pandemic? Who's gonna want to watch AC Milan v Spurs for the 8th time with nothing at stake and FIFA FUT-like squads. It's an unsubstainable pipe dream built on nothing but sheer greed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, OutByEaster? said: I have no idea. Yeah, I've seen it used elsewhere too, but I'm skeptical that anything legally-binding has been put in place by mid-afternoon Sunday when we're told there has been frenzied telephone calls during the weekend. As I say - and I'll stop repeating myself because I'm sure I'm getting boring - this is likely to unravel in the next 24 hours, as we get a parade of chastened Woodward-type figures reassuring the world that it's all just a big misunderstanding (ie, exactly what they were up to in October when this stuff was last Definitely Going To Happen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 UEFA confirming that players will be denied playing for their countries. It's turning into the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 18, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, HanoiVillan said: Yeah, I've seen it used elsewhere too, but I'm skeptical that anything legally-binding has been put in place by mid-afternoon Sunday when we're told there has been frenzied telephone calls during the weekend. As I say - and I'll stop repeating myself because I'm sure I'm getting boring - this is likely to unravel in the next 24 hours, as we get a parade of chastened Woodward-type figures reassuring the world that it's all just a big misunderstanding (ie, exactly what they were up to in October when this stuff was last Definitely Going To Happen). I think they're suggesting that they're named in the letter of intent as a club that will be part of the group but they haven't signed the letter. Maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 The only fans these clubs care about are the tv subscriber ones. They don’t give two shits about the season ticket holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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