HKP90 Posted November 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: More than likely posted already, but I like it. also the mention of Sanson being a relentless presser, which will suit Steven " PRESS " Gerrard as well. Also, he can escape the Ollie as out and out striker, and finally have him as a " Wide Forward " on the left with Ings central and Buendia right. I reckon that's the right way to play those 3. Lucid Leon can hopefully work his way up to full speed, and be an impact sub, until his opportunity to arrive. Him and Buendia battling for that right side, on current form/shape, Emi starts IMO. 4 - 2 - 1 - 3 / 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 ? Can I ask what your take is on the other dreaded Midfield positions? Who do you think he'll go for? Not sure any choice other than McGinn and Doug at the moment, but I'm not sure how you would balance it. Granted I've not seen much of Sanson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: More than likely posted already, but I like it. also the mention of Sanson being a relentless presser, which will suit Steven " PRESS " Gerrard as well. Also, he can escape the Ollie as out and out striker, and finally have him as a " Wide Forward " on the left with Ings central and Buendia right. I reckon that's the right way to play those 3. Lucid Leon can hopefully work his way up to full speed, and be an impact sub, until his opportunity to arrive. Him and Buendia battling for that right side, on current form/shape, Emi starts IMO. 4 - 2 - 1 - 3 / 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 ? They seem to set up and play like Liverpool. Full backs will be crucial. I can see us buying a new left back in the summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 17, 2021 Moderator Share Posted November 17, 2021 It's interesting in terms of that video, because it's exactly the same way we've been playing for the last couple of seasons - essentially we're looking for Gerrard to be playing a very similar system to Smith, but better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: It's interesting in terms of that video, because it's exactly the same way we've been playing for the last couple of seasons - essentially we're looking for Gerrard to be playing a very similar system to Smith, but better. Fair point. We’ve tried the style and system just haven’t always pulled it off. Gerrards needs to some how get more out of the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Agreed. We have talent, just no ball winners. Kamara didn’t really seem a ball winner from what I saw yesterday. More of a link up player. He seemed quite intelligent with his movement albeit looked quite casual. I could see him getting the infamous lazy tag if he ever came to Villa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2021 41 minutes ago, Zatman said: Nakamba has better defensive stats than Kamara Oh dear. Right then. Plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, Zatman said: Nakamba has better defensive stats than Kamara He’s not a defensive midfielder at all is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Steven Gerrard at Aston Villa can spend millions of pounds on a midfielder. Steven Gerrard at Rangers was spending £50k on Dundee midfielders. Why the obsession with Kamara?! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: He’s not a defensive midfielder at all is he? He didn't look like it in the little bits I saw either. Unless they reckon he can actually do both? ( Primarily box to box but can be a solid DM as well ) Versatile? Lord know, the last thing we need is another regular CM... lol. Well unless they are a massive upgrade on our current lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, samjp26 said: Steven Gerrard at Aston Villa can spend millions of pounds on a midfielder. Steven Gerrard at Rangers was spending £50k on Dundee midfielders. Why the obsession with Kamara?! I personally had never heard of him before Gerrard took over, but folks were talking about him as one of the folks he might go back to Rangers for. I know of Kent, and from what i've seen (which again is admittedly limited) I like him. I think we're all clutching at straws to sweep up the turd that the Defensive Midfield Elephant in the room has laid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, samjp26 said: Steven Gerrard at Aston Villa can spend millions of pounds on a midfielder. Steven Gerrard at Rangers was spending £50k on Dundee midfielders. Why the obsession with Kamara?! Agree, he will want success at all costs and will use NWSE's bankcard like a sledgehammer. I think we could and should use a big chunk of whatever budget we have on the best player MF DM general commander captain whatever, we can get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, samjp26 said: Steven Gerrard at Aston Villa can spend millions of pounds on a midfielder. Steven Gerrard at Rangers was spending £50k on Dundee midfielders. Why the obsession with Kamara?! Its not how much they cost, its what they do....We have just spent £90 odd million on 3 players, does that not highlight the uncertainty of big money signings. I say, just let him get on with it, he knows what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: He’s not a defensive midfielder at all is he? Nah he's not. He's an all-rounder who's pretty OK at everything and has good lungs. But he's playing for another team and that automatically makes him better than all of our players apparently. And since he's black he's automatically a DCM beast destroyer too. Or something lazy like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: He’s not a defensive midfielder at all is he? not really, he is just a version of Luiz, Westwood style midfielder but playing in a weaker league. He wont have so much time on the ball in England has 4 goals and 3 assists in his time at Rangers Edited November 17, 2021 by Zatman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, Zatman said: not really, he is just a version of Luiz, Westwood style midfielder but playing in a weaker league. He wont have so much time on the ball in England To be fair he didn’t seem to need much time on the ball against France either. But as mentioned by others Gerrard has money at his disposal so there’s no need for him to be raiding Rangers anyway at all. It was just something to chat about in the mean time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Phil Silvers said: Agree, he will want success at all costs and will use NWSE's bankcard like a sledgehammer. I think we could and should use a big chunk of whatever budget we have on the best player MF DM general commander captain whatever, we can get. I don't think he will, he does want success at all costs, agree with that....but I think he will keep his powder dry too, until the right players come up. I think what we need immediately, will not cost big money....and I think he will demonstrate that, but I also think some fans, will be miffed. We have talent in our team already, we need a different type to give that talent a platform to play off....I am sure he will know already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) It will be interesting what our transfer targets will be now. We did have a clear transfer policy of buying young players to then develop and add value, but this summer seemed very confused. Ings and Young certainly did not fit this remit. Edited November 17, 2021 by The Fun Factory 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted November 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Kamara didn’t really seem a ball winner from what I saw yesterday. More of a link up player. He seemed quite intelligent with his movement albeit looked quite casual. I could see him getting the infamous lazy tag if he ever came to Villa. Yes, he's slow and looks very lazy and ponderous. He would not do well in PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 hours ago, HKP90 said: Agreed. We have talent, just no ball winners. Don't know about that. The likes of Nakamba and McGinn are better at winning the ball back than they are with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Don't know about that. The likes of Nakamba and McGinn are better at winning the ball back than they are with it. Well, yeah but I implicitly meant winning it back and doing something with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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