dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 11/08/2021 at 15:39, MrBlack said: What we'd give for Gana now... the rest of that lineup though.. no surprise he was shit for us back then. £30m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 11/08/2021 at 15:36, AV82 said: Can we take a moment to appreciate exactly where we've come from and where we are right now? To be fair that wasn’t anywhere near the best team we could field that season. But yeh we were a shambles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 14 hours ago, villalad21 said: I think it's much simpler than what you guys are making it out to be. I just think Danny Ings is this season's Barkley. Just a much better player. Danny Ings is a striker, not a no.10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Danny Ings is a striker, not a no.10 Barkley was pretty much playing like a striker last season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Barkley was pretty much playing like a striker last season... that’s only because he couldn’t be bothered to track back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2021 I don’t know when everyone got so hung up on numbers to describe where and how a player plays. It seems a recent thing… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: I don’t know when everyone got so hung up on numbers to describe where and how a player plays. It seems a recent thing… Starting positions are what they are, when the game starts players positions morph with the dynamics of the game.....hence the shout, " get back in position"....players move about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 26 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: I don’t know when everyone got so hung up on numbers to describe where and how a player plays. It seems a recent thing… I think its more for reference, to describe a comment. If you say a 6, 8 or 10.....all midfielders but different applications, it sometimes makes it easier to explain any reasoning....numbers are not set in tablets of stone, just indicators. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, TRO said: Starting positions are what they are, when the game starts players positions morph with the dynamics of the game.....hence the shout, " get back in position"....players move about. Exactly. Klopp says he plays a back 4 for a base structure and the rest is fluid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 On 11/08/2021 at 15:36, AV82 said: Can we take a moment to appreciate exactly where we've come from and where we are right now? In fairness, that team did very well to keep the score down to 4-0 for that game against Arsenal. I would have expected more of a hammering seeing that lineup. A Giroud hattrick and a Bunn og. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Exactly. Klopp says he plays a back 4 for a base structure and the rest is fluid. precisely. It has to be fluid, too many things happen in a game at break neck speed, to be rigid. Edited August 13, 2021 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2021 42 minutes ago, TRO said: I think its more for reference, to describe a comment. If you say a 6, 8 or 10.....all midfielders but different applications, it sometimes makes it easier to explain any reasoning....numbers are not set in tablets of stone, just indicators. I agree, they aren’t set in stone. Players move fluidly, or at least the good ones do, during a game. I just noticed that people used to say DM instead of a 6 or AMC or ‘second striker’ instead of 10… I just wondered what caused the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: I agree, they aren’t set in stone. Players move fluidly, or at least the good ones do, during a game. I just noticed that people used to say DM instead of a 6 or AMC or ‘second striker’ instead of 10… I just wondered what caused the change. I think its folks personal preference of terminology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, TRO said: I think its folks personal preference of terminology. Ah fair enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 We need to play 4-3-3. Usual GK and back 4 (although you could make a strong case for Young at either full back). A front 3 of Bailey, Ollie and Buendia. A midfield three with two holders (still to be procured) and SJM playing as the link man. That leaves us a problem as Ings doesn’t get in but so be it. If we try and shoehorn people in we will continue to be rubbish. That means we need to buy two centre mids. I would buy Cheick and a left sided version of him. We then have balance and a solid spine. It won’t happen and Smith will continue to show horn his favourite players in and it will ultimately lead to his demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Ollie Ings Emi2 Bailey Mcginn Luiz Targs Mings Konza Cash Emi Emi - Stop messing about and be on it every minute, same as last year plus 10%. Mings no more long balls as it's a losing bet, you're not a good enough passer, keep it simple. Konza - concentrate kid. Cash and Targs the honeymoons over, do your thing. Luiz builds it and controls the pace of the game, SJM work you're bollox off and keep it simple. Emi2 sublime passer with Ings sublime movement off the ball. Bailey = Usain Bolt with skills, go for it. Ollie - Same as last year + 20% and don't be so unlucky. Deano - Be nasty. PS..... Dougie get back to work ASAP and be bloody good, same as last year plus 30%. NSWE - Keep your eyes on them lads, push the buggers hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Watkins/Ings Bailey Buendia/Traore McGinn Sanson Luiz -Back 5- Think this is our best side as it stands. Guess we still have time to improve it by signing a couple of more players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Ollie Ings Emi2 Bailey Mcginn Luiz Targs Mings Konza Cash Emi Emi - Stop messing about and be on it every minute, same as last year plus 10%. Mings no more long balls as it's a losing bet, you're not a good enough passer, keep it simple. Konza - concentrate kid. Cash and Targs the honeymoons over, do your thing. Luiz builds it and controls the pace of the game, SJM work you're bollox off and keep it simple. Emi2 sublime passer with Ings sublime movement off the ball. Bailey = Usain Bolt with skills, go for it. Ollie - Same as last year + 20% and don't be so unlucky. Deano - Be nasty. PS..... Dougie get back to work ASAP and be bloody good, same as last year plus 30%. NSWE - Keep your eyes on them lads, push the buggers hard. 2 man midfield ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: 2 man midfield ugh Well its an adaptable 2, Emi and Leon must be a part of MF and attack as the game flows. TBH, I'd rather we find a top MF and have a solid 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, Phil Silvers said: Well its an adaptable 2, Emi and Leon must be a part of MF and attack as the game flows. TBH, I'd rather we find a top MF and have a solid 3. We should just try to emulate Liverpool. They play the football, formation and system that is closest to my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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