The Fun Factory Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, Teale's 'tache said: There's something very enjoyable about a good set piece routine though, England had a few the last World Cup that were pretty good. I agree, maybe I am a bit old school. One of my favourite ever goals at Villa Park was Laursen's header versus Ajax. The sense of excitement was so palpable that night, it felt that anything was possible. Sadly that was almost as good as it got under MON. It would be great to have some European nights back under the lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo's Socks Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Hello everyone, new poster here. I've thought this for a while. We have the most fouled player in the league playing for us, yet fail to capitalise on it as much as we should. Since Conor hasn't been a regular, there's nobody I get exited about taking a free kick. We've got some decent crossers of the ball, and players we know can hit screamers from distance every now and again (although not recently). You'd think with some of the attacking quality we have, there'd be someone who can grab the ball in those situations, and you'd know there was something special about to happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, Pongo's Socks said: Hello everyone, new poster here. I've thought this for a while. We have the most fouled player in the league playing for us, yet fail to capitalise on it as much as we should. Since Conor hasn't been a regular, there's nobody I get exited about taking a free kick. We've got some decent crossers of the ball, and players we know can hit screamers from distance every now and again (although not recently). You'd think with some of the attacking quality we have, there'd be someone who can grab the ball in those situations, and you'd know there was something special about to happen. Welcome. Yes this is an issue. Its not just that Jack wins lots of free kicks, it now also seems that the rest of the team are looking to win free kicks, rather than advance with the ball into dangerous areas. Therefore our delivery has to be consistently better than it is currently, or we are just turning it over to the opposition. Its interesting what you say about Hourihane and direct free kicks. We had a free kick just outside the box against either Arsenal or West Ham, and Traore, Grealish, Barkley and Luiz all stood over it to begin with. The commentator said something along the lines of having really good options to take this. And I thought to myself, have any of these players ever scored a free kick? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, turvontour said: Welcome. Yes this is an issue. Its not just that Jack wins lots of free kicks, it now also seems that the rest of the team are looking to win free kicks, rather than advance with the ball into dangerous areas. Therefore our delivery has to be consistently better than it is currently, or we are just turning it over to the opposition. Its interesting what you say about Hourihane and direct free kicks. We had a free kick just outside the box against either Arsenal or West Ham, and Traore, Grealish, Barkley and Luiz all stood over it to begin with. The commentator said something along the lines of having really good options to take this. And I thought to myself, have any of these players ever scored a free kick? I found one free kick goal scored for Barkley and Traore each but both happened a long time ago. As far as I can tell, Grealish and Luiz have never scored directly from a free kick at a senior level. Edited February 18, 2021 by Laughable Chimp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 16/02/2021 at 00:24, turvontour said: Yes possibly Sanson. I would have thought with corners though you dont need to be overly good at them per se. Like I cant name the other 19 corner specialists of the other teams in the league. But I would have thought one player taking all or most corners would increase accuracy, and understanding of those attacking the corners. Maybe just reading too much in to it. Maybe it doesnt matter who takes them. Ashley Westwood... I said that jokingly, then remembered he actually had an assist against us from a corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 El Ghazi with some seemingly accurate and purposeful corner and free kick deliveries against Leeds. He is also the penalty taker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 We had a free kick about 30 yards out which someone, I think Sanson, just dinked up in the air, and nothing came of it. From the position of that free kick, most teams are shooting. Spurs didnt even bother with a wall against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Looks like we went through a couple of hours of extra training this week That's assuming the training objective was "hit the first man" Seemingly no matter who it is they're shit, even Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LxYoungAVFC Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Targett put in a good free kick from the left. Apart from that our set pieces were shocking yet again again. Come on lads. These are the absolute basics of football and one of the easiest things to get right. How the f*ck are we this bad at set pieces (and have been for the last 10 years or so)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Have we scored from a corner this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I nearly made a thread of this some time ago... We've been shocking all season, constantly hitting the first man. Definitely something that requires major work on the training pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Our effing throw ins are woeful too. Why can't we just throw the bastard to the nearest team mate. Instead we have to get a full set up going and line everyone up to throw to the other bastards we're playing against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 It's bad for sure. Targett should be on the corners, just keep it simple. Whipped into six yard box and yes a few will go straight through to the keeper. But surely a few more will be glanced in by Mings or Konsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 it looks like they are playing kick about when we have set pieces -- they always want to take them quickly and not actually send the ball into the box. Targett did have some pretty good free kicks today though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted March 22, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 22, 2021 James Ward Prowse should be signed just so we can be threatening from set pieces. We win loads of them and at the moment it's pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 10 hours ago, M_Afro said: Have we scored from a corner this season? Konsa scored a couple think Hause and Mings as well We are 5th on set piece goals in the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Zatman said: Konsa scored a couple think Hause and Mings as well We are 5th on set piece goals in the Premier League That's interesting and surprising. Was the last direct free kick Hourihane v Newcastle in 2019? Should run a sweepstake on our next direct free kick scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Zatman said: Konsa scored a couple think Hause and Mings as well We are 5th on set piece goals in the Premier League Think most of them are second phase though. For example the traore goal v Newcastle came from a corner but only one I can remember of corner taker crossing and someone heading in was konsa v Sheffield United first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 WDFAFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 12 hours ago, S-Platt said: James Ward Prowse should be signed just so we can be threatening from set pieces. We win loads of them and at the moment it's pointless. Sign him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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