HalfTimePost Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) No to Tuanzebe, certainly as a DM we don't need projects there. We have two already in Luiz and Nakamba. If we sign another DM, they need to be clear of what we have already. Not injury ridden CBs who haven't strung a few games together in the best part of 2.5 Seasons. As a backup to Konsa... Maybe, I'd be OK with that from our point of view... But I don't think it would be right for his development; he needs games, he wouldn't get them playing bit part for us any more than he would have playing bit part for Man United the past two years. He should be targeting a Watford, Bournemouth or ideally for him, Brighton with their 3 CBs he'd slot in nicely and have others to fall back on, other than him and Webster both wanting to be the RCB. If we got him to backup Konsa and played Tuanzebe-Hause in the early cup rounds and he was there in the event of injury. I'd be happy enough with it, he's an upgrade on Engels, but don't think it's right for his career. Edited July 28, 2021 by HalfTimePost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 hours ago, ciggiesnbeer said: Good point and worth remembering. Mings was the last "little Villa are getting mugged" story we had to endure, with Bournemouth fans and the usual sports media laughing at us, oh how they laughed. Not laughing as much nowadays are they. TBH, non-Villa supporters seem to still think he's shit. Did you see how much flack he got during the Euros? He didn't put a foot in wrong and still was getting hounded to be dropped. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nick76 Posted July 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 I know only the Mail but a nice pick me up during this quiet period that our recruitment seems in good hands with an analysis of our recruitment team 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shirtman Posted July 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 My first proper post !!! I see Will Hughes has refused a new contract at Watford and is training with their Under 23s. I think he might have lost his way of late, but was a real talent when he burst on the scene 8 or 9 years ago. Still only 26 and managed/ coached by Craig Shakespeare, when latter was at Watford. Picked up rumours on here we might be interested. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post est1874 Posted July 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, Shirtman said: My first proper post !!! I see Will Hughes has refused a new contract at Watford and is training with their Under 23s. I think he might have lost his way of late, but was a real talent when he burst on the scene 8 or 9 years ago. Still only 26 and managed/ coached by Craig Shakespeare, when latter was at Watford. Picked up rumours on here we might be interested. I'd be seriously underwhelmed (and a bit worried) if we signed Will Hughes. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaptureJames Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Didn't realise he was only still 26! Shakespeare has experience with the player and I can only guess that if he did come in it was with a specific plan in mind/job he would do for us. Of course a bigger name would be more enticing but willing to trust the recruitment team and back him to come good - Always great to be pleasantly surprised at someone's success than underwhelmed by big name/big money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, est1874 said: I'd be seriously underwhelmed (and a bit worried) if we signed Will Hughes. I wouldn't. He's a massive upgrade on Hourihane and Lansbury. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Shirtman said: My first proper post !!! I see Will Hughes has refused a new contract at Watford and is training with their Under 23s. I think he might have lost his way of late, but was a real talent when he burst on the scene 8 or 9 years ago. Still only 26 and managed/ coached by Craig Shakespeare, when latter was at Watford. Picked up rumours on here we might be interested. Welcome to the madhouse. I’d be disappointed if we are after him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: I wouldn't. He's a massive upgrade on Hourihane and Lansbury. Lansbury is gone mate. Hourihane is now back-up for the back-up subs essentially. We have McGinn, Luiz, Nakamba, Sanson, Ramsey all competing for 3 midfield slots. Hughes adds nothing to that I'd definitely bring in a higher quality CM or DM if we can, but they'd need to be vastly better than Will Hughes to bother 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sam-AVFC Posted July 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, est1874 said: Lansbury is gone mate. Hourihane is now back-up for the back-up subs essentially. We have McGinn, Luiz, Nakamba, Sanson, Ramsey all competing for 3 midfield slots. Hughes adds nothing to that I'd definitely bring in a higher quality CM or DM if we can, but they'd need to be vastly better than Will Hughes to bother He's currently better defensively than all of them apart from maybe Nakamba and a way better passer of the ball than him. Ramsey is talented, but doesn't yet add much apart from running when he comes on. Needs to go on loan playing every week to properly develop. I agree that ideally we'll be after a first choice midfielder, I just don't buy all this 'worry' from people. You'd think we scraped survival last season again. I also think our coaches and the club have earned enough credit for us to give them the benefit of the doubt, particularly with a player that one of them has worked with. At least he wouldn't cost near £30m like Tyrone Mings, the other 26 year old flop we've signed recently. Edited July 28, 2021 by Sam-AVFC 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Welcome to the forum! Hope you enjoy your time here 23 minutes ago, Shirtman said: My first proper post !!! I see Will Hughes has refused a new contract at Watford and is training with their Under 23s. I think he might have lost his way of late, but was a real talent when he burst on the scene 8 or 9 years ago. Still only 26 and managed/ coached by Craig Shakespeare, when latter was at Watford. Picked up rumours on here we might be interested. If someone like Hughes is available on a cut-price deal I'd be all for it. My only concern is stunting opportunities for our youth players in similar positions, but if they end up out on loan and Hourihane leaves, he's competing with the other 4 and would be good competition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Think Hughes would be an opportunity signing if it happens. Doubt we'd be interest if he wasn't sitting on a contract with only 1 year left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, Shirtman said: My first proper post !!! I see Will Hughes has refused a new contract at Watford and is training with their Under 23s. I think he might have lost his way of late, but was a real talent when he burst on the scene 8 or 9 years ago. Still only 26 and managed/ coached by Craig Shakespeare, when latter was at Watford. Picked up rumours on here we might be interested. Right, fish pun please for your second post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 31 minutes ago, Shirtman said: My first proper post !!! I see Will Hughes has refused a new contract at Watford and is training with their Under 23s. I think he might have lost his way of late, but was a real talent when he burst on the scene 8 or 9 years ago. Still only 26 and managed/ coached by Craig Shakespeare, when latter was at Watford. Picked up rumours on here we might be interested. No fish puns or gifs 2/10 for effort - wnb welcome to the site 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichiBoi11 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Hughes won't be signing , he has an E in his name. (if you know you know) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I know a few Watford fans who say he's only been OK for them the last few seasons and never really kicked on. 'useful' is their wording for him and that's this season in the championship. Our new starting CAM he is not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtman Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, Jareth said: Right, fish pun please for your second post I've come on here to help me get my stickle back 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Seb Revan now gone on loan... surely that means we're close to a deal for a 4th CB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtman Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, est1874 said: Seb Revan now gone on loan... surely that means we're close to a deal for a 4th CB... Lamare bogarde has looked good pre season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, est1874 said: Seb Revan now gone on loan... surely that means we're close to a deal for a 4th CB... Seb's the left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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