RicRic Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 hours ago, skarroki said: I'd go as far as to say Davis and Wesley are both unproven in the Prem, one hasn't had enough minutes to make his mark and the other has been out injured for 18 months and hadn't had much time to make an impression before then. Difficult to put either of them into a neat little ability box in my opinion. I would say both have shown glimpses of ability and qualities that would make them effective at this level. As much as I like and rate Watkins, I'm not sure "top 6" fits him yet. He needs to learn to stay onside and be more lethal. If he took a few more convincing tumbles and hit the ball at the right moment he'd have been up there for golden boot imo. I can't see any of them being replaced this window and think the coaching staff have faith they will be enough for us to push on and I'm inclined to agree with them. So west ham finished sixth are you telling me Watkins wouldn’t be starting for them ? As thats classed as top six essentially and Keinan Davis has had more than enough time if you ask me ... get rid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphil Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 49 minutes ago, allani said: Top 3 or 4 English strikers doesn't make him "top 6" level - especially as the teams that those players represent finished in 7th, 9th, 10th and 11th places respectively. Unless you count Jamie Vardy but he's probably now on the downturn of his career so as much as I rate him, I haven't included him in the above. I think Ollie was very impressive last season (especially as it was his first season at this level) but he's not (yet) in the top 5 or 6 strikers I have seen at Villa Park or the best 5 or 6 strikers in the PL. He missed a few one-on-ones last season that you would expect a genuine "top 6" striker to bury with their eyes shut. I want to see him sort that out before I count him as a "top class" striker. However, I genuinely hope that with Jack and Emi providing him through balls to chase rather than long balls down the channels that he will score more this season. If Man City were to buy Ollie now they would be buying potential not the end product which I guess was my point. Hopefully this season (and next) he makes that step up because if he is banging in 20 odd goals in front of Jack, Emi, Bertie and ANO then we will be having a great season. If he switches to taking penalties, his supply improves (Emi, full season Jack, +ANO) and he improves his chance conversion rate (hits fewer posts, holds his run by 6 inches etc) he’ll be hoping / expecting 25+ ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, bcarpet said: I really think he will hit 20 goals this season. I've got no basis what so ever for that other than gut instinct, but I think he is going to really kick on again this year I believe he will hit 16/17 goals next season with the players behind him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sir_gary_cahill Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 hours ago, OLDVILLAIN said: The strangest ever post i think i have ever seen on VT.. Have you seen some of mine?? 3 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Have you seen some of mine?? I remember the one about some young kid called Jack that was going to be a superstar. You do yourself a disservice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2021 5 hours ago, barry'sboots said: I'm sure Charlton Heston scored a few crackers and went missing thereafter!! Or maybe, he just liked monkeys?? I meant Hourihane. If Charlton Hesten was due to take a penalty and Roy Keane tried to take it off him, he would tell Roy Keane he would have to take the ball out of his cold, dead hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Daily Mail reporting Nakamba wanted by Everton and Crystal Palace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, tomav84 said: i miss mysteryman. used to post on here now and then. i think he's the only genuine ITK i've seen hairyhands and the decent into weirdness of Lambo, thetrees watching Ole's plane. memorable times. we had some fun as fans. so happy where we are now though, we just seem more focused . Edited July 23, 2021 by ciggiesnbeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: hairyhands and the decent into weirdness of Lambo, thetrees watching Ole's plane. memorable times. we had some fun as fans. so happy where we are now though, we just seem more focused . Agree. Much more focused on fish puns and Kenneths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, av1 said: I remember the one about some young kid called Jack that was going to be a superstar. You do yourself a disservice. Poor old SGC, in that very same legendary post he went and compared Jack to a sex offender 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, Enda said: Poor old SGC, in that very same legendary post he went and compared Jack to a sex offender If memory serves he said he’d be a much better player. And he was spot on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeper Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Know some people aren't keen on this Whispers account. But he's said we're after Dan James. I'd like him personally. Would add some much needed pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, Creeper said: Know some people aren't keen on this Whispers account. But he's said we're after Dan James. I'd like him personally. Would add some much needed pace. I saw that. I really hope it’s not true. The kid has no football brain in my opinion. Bailey is twice the player James will ever be! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Creeper said: Know some people aren't keen on this Whispers account. But he's said we're after Dan James. I'd like him personally. Would add some much needed pace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Creeper said: Know some people aren't keen on this Whispers account. But he's said we're after Dan James. I'd like him personally. Would add some much needed pace. Deffo no expert myself, but don’t they play on opposite sides of the pitch? Might be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeper Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, M_Afro said: I saw that. I really hope it’s not true. The kid has no football brain in my opinion. Bailey is twice the player James will ever be! Agreed on that. Would much prefer Bailey. Just hope that Dortmund don't go for Bailey with Sancho off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Creeper said: Agreed on that. Would much prefer Bailey. Just hope that Dortmund don't go for Bailey with Sancho off. Dortmund are signing Malen, maybe he’s the replacement ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Going for Bailey and ending up with Daniel James would be like going for Falcao and ending up with Heskey. Only much worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, sne said: Going for Bailey and ending up with Daniel James would be like going for Falcao and ending up with Heskey. Only much worse. Like going to bed with Liz Hurley and waking up next to George Burley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, sne said: Going for Bailey and ending up with Daniel James would be like going for Falcao and ending up with Heskey. Only much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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