PieFacE Posted July 18, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2021 Yeah I think that whispers account is a bit full of it tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 It definitely won’t be Ings! Haven’t made my mind up about that account. Seems mainly vague and guesswork but I think a couple of things seem like they may have a clue about some stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 52 minutes ago, Jas10 said: We should buying and wanting the “next big things” rather than the old or tired ones… Yep Doku not Lingard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 53 minutes ago, useless said: People rubbishing Ben White reminds me of fans of other clubs that rubbished us when we signed the likes of Watkins, Mings, Cash and so on, he's a very good player was one of the best in the championship with Leeds, which is why they offered £25m plus for him last summer even though he had no Premier League experience, and he's since had a season in the premier leauge and done very well, earning himself a call up to the England squad. He's had a similar trajectory to the likes of Konsa, Mings and Watkins, we're lucky that we don't have to sell them but if we had to and the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea were trying to buy them we'd want a similar amount of money, probably more in Watkins case. Besides we're looking to sign a third choice centre-back, so Ben White's transfer fee has little relevance to us, even if we sign a defender with experience of playing in the UK, there are plenty that we could get as a back up option that wouldn't cost anywhere near what it would cost to buy Ben White. It isn't about the player it's about his fee and what you can get elsewhere for a lot cheaper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 3 hours ago, bobzy said: I find it interesting that, after our manager states we will be looking for players with Premier League experience, the continued suggestions are always foreign-based wonderkids etc. Not quite true, there's a slight difference, we aren't bringing in a 21 year old english wonderkid because the value simply isn't there You could make an argument that we've put our academy scouting in to overdrive though Louie Barry for example, we have signed home grown wonderkids, we also signed the England U16 captain this summer I think we're looking for talent everywhere, the PL thing was overstated 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, thabucks said: I think Dwight McNeil is a great throwback old school style winger… But IMO he is never going to live up to his price tag and we can find such better value elsewhere as you’ve said. It seems to be working great between Smith & lange’s team at present and long may that continue. Big issues will arise if/when that relationship falters. Agreed, 60m odd would be such a waste on such a player when you could actually sign a top class performer at that sort of price… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) The whispers account is apparently XIa, can't see what he's said in that tweet, but if he's linking us to a Southampton player I wouldn't be surprised if it's Max Alleyne, highly rated young left back that apparently a lot of the top academies are trying to sign. Left back being a position where I think we might strengthen our academy team, which is why I've also mentioned Thierry Small and Lino Sousa as possiblities because of the Albion connection. Edited July 18, 2021 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, useless said: The whispers account is apparently XIa, Wait what … please tell me more - that’s both creepy and hilarious if true… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 48 minutes ago, Jas10 said: I wouldn’t sell Konsa… the question is not on selling players but valuations. Clubs can demand whatever they want for their most valued players but thats because they do not want to and needn’t sell unless crazy offers come in… It doesn’t justify the transfer values of players such as White… Does it make sense for Arsenal, not a big or successful club in financial turmoil, to spend £50m on him? I can understand Varane being valued or bought for £50m but Ben White? Why not look elsewhere and get better value? Many of the best defenders in this league didn’t cost massive fees and is in Ben White on their level, yet? Perfect example. Varane twice the player white is, 50 million. Obviously the wages are more but you can see the relative value out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, useless said: The whispers account is apparently XIa, can't see what he's said in that tweet, but if he's linking us to a Southampton player I wouldn't be surprised if it's Max Alleyne, highly rated young left back that apparently a lot of the top academies are trying to sign. It would all be in symbols if it was xia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, beachboys1 said: did brighton fans rate white No, they think he is their 3rd best CB. Leeds fans rated him though so they voted for him in an open twitter poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, useless said: The whispers account is apparently XIa, Unless the posts are a juvenile form of hieroglyphics then we can probably discount that particular theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Thought Xia was in the clink. This would be superb though if it is him, he's probably got high level surveillance equipment at VP and no one knows, cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: Perfect example. Varane twice the player white is, 50 million. Obviously the wages are more but you can see the relative value out there. That may be the case but he is 28 and has a year left on his deal, it could be argued he isn’t worth 50m either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Let’s be real here if Arsenal have 50m quid to spend on defensive improvement to their squad they could have Kamara and Milenkovic and 10 million left over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Have I missed something about a Ben white - why is his fee such a hot topic discussion ? We bidding ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, thabucks said: Have I missed something about a Ben white - why is his fee such a hot topic discussion ? We bidding ? Just bored, no speculation to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Yeah that’s the problems with lange’s tight ship … bit selfish really if you think about it … 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, thabucks said: Yeah that’s the problems with lange’s tight ship … bit selfish really if you think about it … I know right, why can't these billionaires just throw millions on just anyone to give me a few hours of amusement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 It's even gone quiet on Iroegbunam, in trying to find out if the U18s had been invovled in a friendly saw a player in the Villa training kit at Bodymoor Heath on instagram yesterday that I didn't recognize as one of our current players, was wondering if that was him, if not then maybe a trialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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