thabucks Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 45 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: We already have Emi Martinez in goal so not a position we need to fill. Uğurcan Çakır (Turkey Keeper who plays for Trabzonspor) is a very good keeper. We were linked with him back in April by the Turkish press … 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 He's just made an absolute mug of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mazrim said: He's just made an absolute mug of himself. Doesn't make him a bad keeper just because of a mistake. Edited June 11, 2021 by Villan4Life 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tez500 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 https://twitter.com/pgr_analytics/status/1403457101192646657?s=19 A whopping 47.5% pass accuracy from the keeper too. Given how good Martinez is with his feet I'm not sure he would fit in! (P.S. how do I properly link a tweet so it shows here?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxstock92 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, Tez500 said: https://twitter.com/pgr_analytics/status/1403457101192646657?s=19 A whopping 47.5% pass accuracy from the keeper too. Given how good Martinez is with his feet I'm not sure he would fit in! (P.S. how do I properly link a tweet so it shows here?) Paste the link and then it should come with an option of paste as plain text (I’m using an iPhone and that’s what comes up for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 32 minutes ago, Tez500 said: https://twitter.com/pgr_analytics/status/1403457101192646657?s=19 A whopping 47.5% pass accuracy from the keeper too. Given how good Martinez is with his feet I'm not sure he would fit in! (P.S. how do I properly link a tweet so it shows here?) It was like a look at me I can proper welly the ball really far In a team that was sat deep He was smashing it over everybody without a care in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, Tez500 said: https://twitter.com/pgr_analytics/status/1403457101192646657?s=19 A whopping 47.5% pass accuracy from the keeper too. Given how good Martinez is with his feet I'm not sure he would fit in! (P.S. how do I properly link a tweet so it shows here?) His passing accuracy in the Turkish league is much better. 59% compared to Martinez's 63% with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tez500 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, Loxstock92 said: Paste the link and then it should come with an option of paste as plain text (I’m using an iPhone and that’s what comes up for me) Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 hours ago, thabucks said: Just got a message from a mate from my days at OUFC who has given me a few random bits of info every now and then Villa related. He has said to watch Vitaliy Mykolenko which I guess is his way of saying he’s heard of interest perhaps… It's a nice out of the blue name, fits a position we're needing a replacement for, perfect age etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Villan4Life said: Doesn't make him a bad keeper just because of a mistake. Yeah, I know that. I just thought it was funny he was getting props and then made an absolute bollocks of it. To be fair, Turkey were all awful tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Villan4Life said: We already have Emi Martinez in goal so not a position we need to fill. Do you know I thought to myself today: if Martinez has another stellar season, and is Argentina’s goalkeeper at the World Cup, someone like Real Madrid might throw a fortune at him. I have been thinking “here’s our goalkeeper for 7-8 years” but that’s not how it works - need to make sure we have a talent pathway and backup plans in place for all our stars even while trying to keep them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Adam2003 said: Do you know I thought to myself today: if Martinez has another stellar season, and is Argentina’s goalkeeper at the World Cup, someone like Real Madrid might throw a fortune at him. I have been thinking “here’s our goalkeeper for 7-8 years” but that’s not how it works - need to make sure we have a talent pathway and backup plans in place for all our stars even while trying to keep them. If we keep improving, something tells me Emi might be reticent to accept anything but the #1 position at a huge club. Unlikely Real Madrid or equivalent will be able to offer him that. Question for us will be, do we want the cash or do we want Emi Martinez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, KangarooVillan said: Question for us will be, do we want the cash or do we want Emi Martinez? The answer is so blindingly obvious the question doesn’t really need asking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordVillan Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 4 hours ago, KangarooVillan said: If we keep improving, something tells me Emi might be reticent to accept anything but the #1 position at a huge club. Unlikely Real Madrid or equivalent will be able to offer him that. Question for us will be, do we want the cash or do we want Emi Martinez? Football is an ever changing landscape. It can also change quickly. What can look a perfect relationship this month can suddenly look a whole lot different next month, due to any amount of external factors. We have in Martinez a GK who I would think can now be classed as in the top 10 GKs in world football, and as such that’s going to mean there’ll be interest in him from football clubs with a considerably bigger standing in football than Aston Villa at the present time. As long as Emi is really happy at Villa and his form and fitness remain then it’s a no brainer to retain a GK of his undoubted quality over the money. But……it only takes a slight change to the dynamics to change this. If somebody like a Real Madrid or a Barcelona showed real interest then it wouldn’t be a surprise for that to interest Martinez, as we must remember that his time in the limelight has come late to him at 28yrs old and he’d likely want to maximise his remaining years to create memories and win silverware. Lets not forget that a little over a 18months ago he was not on anyone’s radar as he was throwing himself around in a Reading FC shirt! And then there’s the possibility that Villa unearth a young GK in the coming season or so who easily looks like he could be the No.1 for the next decade, at which point offers above £30-35m and above begin to look like really good, sensible business! So many possibilities in football. All that said, at this moment in time there’s not an offer coming that would tempt me to sell what is a top class Goalkeeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, OxfordVillan said: Football is an ever changing landscape. It can also change quickly. What can look a perfect relationship this month can suddenly look a whole lot different next month, due to any amount of external factors. We have in Martinez a GK who I would think can now be classed as in the top 10 GKs in world football, and as such that’s going to mean there’ll be interest in him from football clubs with a considerably bigger standing in football than Aston Villa at the present time. As long as Emi is really happy at Villa and his form and fitness remain then it’s a no brainer to retain a GK of his undoubted quality over the money. But……it only takes a slight change to the dynamics to change this. If somebody like a Real Madrid or a Barcelona showed real interest then it wouldn’t be a surprise for that to interest Martinez, as we must remember that his time in the limelight has come late to him at 28yrs old and he’d likely want to maximise his remaining years to create memories and win silverware. Lets not forget that a little over a 18months ago he was not on anyone’s radar as he was throwing himself around in a Reading FC shirt! And then there’s the possibility that Villa unearth a young GK in the coming season or so who easily looks like he could be the No.1 for the next decade, at which point offers above £30-35m and above begin to look like really good, sensible business! So many possibilities in football. All that said, at this moment in time there’s not an offer coming that would tempt me to sell what is a top class Goalkeeper. Yes, but no chance at £30-35m. £60m+ before we even print out the fax to read it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Good god, do we ever stop putting prices on our best players! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, ender4 said: print out the fax to read it. I hope we really do still use fax. I applaud your appreciation of proper communication devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: Good god, do we ever stop putting prices on our best players! Church. Do we look like we need the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Thing is, whether we do need the money (i believe we don't) doesn't really come in to it. If a player gets his head turned in the international dressing room by team mates who play for Barcelona or RM then they may want to leave for the big stage now rather than work Villa's way up to it in a few years. As Alan Shearer once said when quizzed about his move to Blackburn "every man has his price and they've just found mine " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 hours ago, KangarooVillan said: If we keep improving, something tells me Emi might be reticent to accept anything but the #1 position at a huge club. Unlikely Real Madrid or equivalent will be able to offer him that. Question for us will be, do we want the cash or do we want Emi Martinez? See I’m saying “what if they do offer him that?” - because I think he’s that good. I’m not immediately worried about it - just saying my working assumption that he’s here for years and years may not work out if he improves further. To your second point it depends how much cash eh… if Madrid want someone they usually get them. Anyway this was a pure hypothetical that a couple of years down the line a monster club might come in for him so young goalkeeping prospects should still be in our mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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