dudevillaisnice Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 I guess with the Euros starting soon we won’t see much movement until the tournament is over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Jareth said: You've been treated harshly here, I'll jump on your side to even it out - @AvfcRigo82 @DaveAV1 @allani you trio of beatches Oh that hurts. A dagger driven straight through my heart! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Zatman said: That was a different you cant compare them signings to modern day money Plus Martinez as I also said was hungry and didnt get a ridiculous contract, he also didnt come from a top 6 club I never mentioned top 6 clubs. That was your interpretation. I am thinking about big clubs all over the World. There are players all over the World who started at a big club but had to make their way back to the top via a diversion. Pogba, Sancho, KDB just off the top of my head. We should not consider it to be a closed shop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 11 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: I don't think he played 442 at Brentford probably not Walsall either. Barely any PL team plays 442 now. Burnley Southampton, Leicester sometimes. There seems loads on here obsessed with 442 and that we should deploy it even though Smith probably never will So I think you are helping my point because I agree most don’t play 442 but you would agree most of those same teams use during a game more than one quality (what we would consider) main striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, nick76 said: So I think you are helping my point because I agree most don’t play 442 but you would agree most of those same teams use during a game more than one quality (what we would consider) main striker. Spurs just Kane without thinking about it Man City have played KDB and Foden up front this season. Already said Traore is a potential option. Man U have used Greenwood Martial and Rashford up front all wingers. Man U fans have complained Cavani only recognised striker. West Ham have Antonio who used to get played wide mid and even fullback I know sounds total madness but sometimes coaches employ players in positions fans don't think or realise they can play Edited May 31, 2021 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Dale said: If Utd are offloading James/van der Beek I'd be very happy to go that way... Happily take both but can imagine they are on big salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 What about Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi from Chelsea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Xela said: What about Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi from Chelsea? Yes to HO, absolutely No to RLC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Xela said: What about Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi from Chelsea? No. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Steero113 said: ????? You're talking about Donny Van De Beek to be sure yes? He is an established Champions League player who would be two or three rungs up the ladder in terms of quality. He is being disgustingly treated by Solskjaer and many Utd fans are wondering why he isn't starting for them. I'm not saying he's anywhere near the level of Dennis Bergkamp, but it feels like a situation similar to how Arsenal picked him up where he was unhappy at Inter and the manager kept him in the dark but underneath you knew there was a class player. Having played in the champions league means zilch as to whether the player is of PL quality. If you want examples let me know. VDB might develop into something, but right now he is not a PL quality player or what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, Xela said: What about Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi from Chelsea? Only reason Chelsea would sell us players was if they thought they were no good. That or loan us a lush and pay his 100k per week wages 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Having played in the champions league means zilch as to whether the player is of PL quality. If you want examples let me know. VDB might develop into something, but right now he is not a PL quality player or what we need. You are correct. Is Samatta on your list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 55 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Spurs just Kane without thinking about it Man City have played KDB and Foden up front this season. Already said Traore is a potential option. Man U have used Greenwood Martial and Rashford up front all wingers. Man U fans have complained Cavani only recognised striker. West Ham have Antonio who used to get played wide mid and even fullback I know sounds total madness but sometimes coaches employ players in positions fans don't think or realise they can play I think we agree....I think If we say played Tammy and Ollie upfront, with Ollie in the number 10 role. Then like Kane, Ollie would still be main striker but allow him to drop deep, wide or be directly upfront how he chooses and let Tammy do the traditional number 9 role. Ollie would still then be classed as a 'main striker' because he will be essentially doing what he does now, he would just have a partner. We keep seeing that 433 or 4231 formation being on the Villa with the middle of the three being more an attacking midfielder but it could be a deeper moving striker. Seeing an attack line of Tammy, Ollie, Grealish and Buendia could really be quality going forwards. I think whether that is 433, 4231, 4312 or 442 or mixing it up during the game would be epic. I worry the strength in DM then to cover would leave us too exposed but again I go back to being a squad game and against lower teams we could play more agressive but then against the bigger teams we could be more solid and drop one of those four to the bench and put in a midfielder to strengthen that area. Then it would be great to bring somebody off the bench with that quality of those four if the needs mean we need to make a change. I think back to my original point is that we have to have options, we as Villa fans, so focus on the first XI but we can see the game today and know we need options and not back ups, we need genuine quality if we are looking to get into the top eight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 35 minutes ago, Xela said: What about Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi from Chelsea? Nah, RLC is supposed to be a lazy, bad attitude player and that's when they were comparing him to Barkley so I think I'd keep away from that. Plus I dont think he's all that Hudson-Odoi, just not really seen enough of quality from him to be interested at the price he's likely to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, nick76 said: If we say played Tammy and Ollie upfront, with Ollie in the number 10 role. We won't do that. Smith has said Watkins is the main man up front. I'd rather a sign a CAM. I really don't think we'll sign Tammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Hudson Odi is on £150k per week.....no thanks As soon as Eze is fit, i would sign him, i would be very tempted to put a bid in for Jimenez from Wolves, and a Bissouma signing is essential imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 If Kane went to Citeh and Spurs poached Watkins who would we buy to replace Watkins? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, zab6359 said: If Kane went to Citeh and Spurs poached Watkins who would we buy to replace Watkins? Watkins is not for sale. We just signed him. We don't need money. Also he's a Gooner. Also Levy is a skinflint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: Hudson Odi is on £150k per week.....no thanks As soon as Eze is fit, i would sign him, i would be very tempted to put a bid in for Jimenez from Wolves, and a Bissouma signing is essential imho We haven't been linked with Bissouma but Liverpool have been strongly linked and also Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: Watkins is not for sale. We just signed him. We don't need money. Also he's a Gooner. Also Levy is a skinflint Spurs were interested last summer but as you say Levy is a skinfint and wasn't willing to take a punt on him, but he's a proven PL striker now. Correct we don't NEED the money but if the right bid was to come in who knows. Watkins is highly rated we'd be naive to think we are to good to sell on good players for the right price and that bigger clubs won't come looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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