DCJonah Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: I think there is a possibility of it happening only if tammy was signed I really don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 In fairness to anyone suggesting Tammy I don't think he's an example that exactly fits in with the others being listed. Percy reported that we'll apparently be after a striker and Abraham is one who is likely to be available, has proven he can score in this league and has a good relationship with the current coaching staff/chunk of the squad. I'm in the same boat as folk who can't see it happening for reasons already listed but I'd be all for it were it to come to pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, Indigo said: In fairness to anyone suggesting Tammy I don't think he's an example that exactly fits in with the others being listed. Percy reported that we'll apparently be after a striker and Abraham is one who is likely to be available, has proven he can score in this league and has a good relationship with the current coaching staff/chunk of the squad. I'm in the same boat as folk who can't see it happening for reasons already listed but I'd be all for it were it to come to pass. We've had an enormous turn over of players since he left. By the time the next season starts he'll have only played with about 4 of our match day squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Tammy is a realistic target, for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordVillan Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: The reason is we dont just stop because we rate ollie, we need to get players as good as him if not better. Furthermore it adds squad depth to the club something we need. Tammy adds something different to ollie. Look at liverpool their front three is unbelievable did they stop? No they added jota and he has added alot to their team Id wager a decent amount that many Liverpool fans would snap your arm off if offered Ollie Watkins as a replacement for Firminho. Jota is not a specialist CF, he was brought in initially as cover for Mane as a wide forward. I’ve a couple of mates who are Liverpool fans who would love Watkins as CF in place of Firminho. A CF who works his nuts off AND scores goals were their exact words. Why on gods earth would we push Watkins out wide to accommodate a player not as good as Watkins at CF?! Not many top teams have two top notch CFs, not when most are playing with just one. Spurs have Kane and then it’s a big drop off, Liverpool have Firminho and then a big drop off to Origi, Man City have had Aguero (you might argue Jesus, but he’s only really played with agueros career at city coming to a close....... and city often playing without a recognised CF), Man Utd have had to sign a 34yr old CF to get them through a period of time, Leicester will have to replace an ageing Vardy (though I rate Iheanacho), Chelsea have often reverted to an ageing Giroud at CF (preferred often to Abraham), Arsenal struggling to accommodate Aubamayang and Lacazette, to the point that they play their now highest salary earner out wide and out of position.....with a poor goals return. Ollie Watkins has proven to be a fantastic signing at CF, proven himself the entirety of the season thus far. We’d be utterly mad to move him out of position for a former loaned player that some fans have a schoolgirl crush on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: The reason is we dont just stop because we rate ollie, we need to get players as good as him if not better. Furthermore it adds squad depth to the club something we need. Tammy adds something different to ollie. Look at liverpool their front three is unbelievable did they stop? No they added jota and he has added alot to their team except Liverpool attack has gone backwards, Mane and Firmino are both having poor seasons and are struggling to get to double figures, Mane taking a huge drop on previous seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, YouUnastanFren said: We've had an enormous turn over of players since he left. By the time the next season starts he'll have only played with about 4 of our match day squad. *in the starting eleven, that should have been. Semantics anyway but the point is he's not exactly in the Amavi, Milner etc category for the reasons mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Not saying we will spend big, but we've got the capital to spend next year and offer high wages and stability (relative to other clubs in the league and beyond). Despite the economic turmoil, I think we will continue to see surprise deals at lower rates, e.g. look at the cost of Sanson versus the quoted price a year before. I don't think we will just look at the Championship as the papers will lazily link, as Lange and his team will have been doing their analysis in the current roles for longer and shaping the way we look for talent. More so with the contracts given to certain players and prospects continues that vision. It's going to be very interesting to see what happens next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Tammy seems destined for West Ham. They'll sign him for their Europa campaign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 4 hours ago, villa4europe said: Add Tammy to the list of ex players we have a strange obsession over bringing back So no chance of Salifou coming back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, nick76 said: So no chance of Salifou coming back? He's busy managing the Togolese Real Madrid. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 38 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Tammy seems destined for West Ham. They'll sign him for their Europa campaign. Yep, I can see him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Eh??? I'm all for spending money... Just wisely with a nice sell on value would be a good idea. Would you be happy with this just a thought .. modelling man city’s approach by signing a winger who can be quite effective as a striker also, so then we could spend more on quality instead of splitting it into two, i have a strange feeling we will sign delle ali for some reason. i think delle has much much more hunger and desire than barkley does so DS can surely bring him back to the top of his game. We will certainly be looking at replacing a couple from our current starting XI which in turn improves our bench.. so substitute options wont look as scary as it does now. Edited April 8, 2021 by RicRic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, RicRic said: Would you be happy with this just a thought .. modelling man city’s approach by signing a winger who can be quite effective as a striker also, so then we could spend more on quality instead of splitting it into two, i have a strange feeling we will sign delle ali for some reason. i think delle has much much more hunger and desire than barkley does so DS can surely bring him back to the top of his game. We will certainly be looking at replacing a couple from our current starting XI which in turn improves our bench.. so substitute options wont look as scary as it does now. I think mirroring Man City's approach would not be a bad thing. Signing players who could play a few positions in the attacking role would equally be advantageous. I was thinking about the Deli Ali saga the other day there too. Imo, he is not someone I would like us to go for but as you say I think there is a small chance it could also actually happen. If we could reignite him and his career similar to what's happening with Lingaard at Hammers, and get Deli playing the football he did under Poch at Spurs then it would not be a bad idea. I assume any idea of getting him would be a loan first with a clause to buy at the end. As long as he is a success and he offers us more than what Barkley has then it might not be a bad move after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Tomaszk said: Tammy seems destined for West Ham. They'll sign him for their Europa campaign. Yeah, they need a dedicated CF who will play every week. Plus he already lives in London etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Indigo said: In fairness to anyone suggesting Tammy I don't think he's an example that exactly fits in with the others being listed. Percy reported that we'll apparently be after a striker and Abraham is one who is likely to be available, has proven he can score in this league and has a good relationship with the current coaching staff/chunk of the squad. I'm in the same boat as folk who can't see it happening for reasons already listed but I'd be all for it were it to come to pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 5 hours ago, villa4europe said: In the last England squad as a striker ahead of Tammy but we should buy Tammy for the £40m+ Chelsea would want for him and shift Ollie out wide... Add Tammy to the list of ex players we have a strange obsession over bringing back He's a decent player, not better than Ollie and not worth what Chelsea will want for him, we need a striker for depth no doubt but we don't need Tammy I agree we do tend to look through our claret & blue glasses a bit, when it comes to our former players. In this case though, Tammy is both young and good enough, other than in the case of Axel I don't think the same quite applies to the rest of our ex's. Whether we should go for one or either of them, is open to question, but we could do worse in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 8, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 8, 2021 Chelsea seem keen on using Tammy to get Rice. The player, not the cereal grain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Chelsea seem keen on using Tammy to get Rice. The player, not the cereal grain. Yeah, that's a move that makes sense for both. Wonder what West Ham could get out of it? £20m+Tammy? Tricky to pRice it up. Tammy wants to be careful though. Rice cannot be replaced easily and West Ham will be much weaker without him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 5 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: I agree that the midfield is unbalanced at the moment but surely up front is a priority as at present we have only one fit proven goalscorer? McGrath forbid if Ollie gets a nasty injury in pre season we are fooked. Certain players just don't get injured. It's not in their genetic makeup. Ollie seem to be one of those. He has zero injury history and that'n no fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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