Ratings & Reactions: Man City v Villa

[Davkaus]

2 minutes ago, PieFacE said:

When I initially saw the goal I didn't think it was offside 'cos I thought the next phase of play started once Mings controlled it. However, after seeing the replay I don't think he's got the ball anywhere near in control enough for it to be considered a new phase of play. 

This is the problem. Where's the definition for new phase of play? The rules are so vague and open to interpretation, the refs call them as they see fit, and PGMOL back them up. Just see Walton disagreeing on air, but changing his mind minutes later. I'm 100% convinced he had a call from PGMOL telling him to correct himself.

I don't think it's match rigging, or a conspiracy against the Villa, I just think PGMOL is an old boy's club who look after their own no matter how shit they are. There are very few cases where you can say "that's definitely wrong" with no wriggle room, and boy,  do PGMOL use the wiggle room. 

[romavillan]

We were fantastic AGAIN, even after not training for two weeks. Full credit to Smith and the other coaches for that, I really thought we wouldn't be at the races tonight, not only fitness wise. It showed in some of our decision making for the final ball, maybe needed to be sharper but we gave one of the best teams in the world a very good game tonight. We did that with a squad that is nowhere near as full of world class players as City.

Martinez is an incredible keeper, Targett pushed him close for ma of the match for me, but Martinez right from that first left footed miracle save in the first few minutes was top top drawer. What a signing he has been.

Fully back Smith in whatever he said to get sent off, might have been wise to have bitten his lip after the yellow but to be fair after seeing it back it's the most blatant offside you can imagine. It's not even close to being debatable, their player is 20 metres offside when the ball is headed and then he comes back and tackles Mings. Joke decision and you can understand why Smith stuck to his guns as it was **** shambolic officiating. Their penalty too was harsh to say the least, header is going wide and whilst Cash has his hand up it gets headed at him from point blank range. Sketchy penalty at best. 

Really which we had found the final ball better a couple of times (twice Barkley could have done better) and scored because our performance deserved a goal. Great game ruined by the linesman, ref and VAR.

Something brilliant is happening with us though, and it's only going to get better. We are going to **** smash Newcastle.

[alreadyexists]

1 minute ago, Danishlad said:

yes he should have cleared it

Why? There was no danger from onside players, the only danger was from players coming from offside positions.

[Lord Willard]

5 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said:

Well we just have to dust ourselves down and go again. 

We need the big W at the weekend to get back on track after a tough run of fixtures.

Shocking refereeing  again.

I hope not, I hope Christian Purslow is getting ready to go to town on the PL

[Talldarkandransome]

Unless the rule has been changed mid game, every time you see an attacker coming back from an offside position they are called offside as soon as the ball is played forward.

How the same player can't be affecting play j don't know. If I was Deano in the press conference I would bury the officials and VAR and take the fine. Id then stick the fine in a big brown envelope and hand it to them at a bus stop on a dark unlit road

[richp999]

1 minute ago, Davkaus said:

This is the problem. Where's the definition for new phase of play? The rules are so vague and open to interpretation, the refs call them as they see fit, and PGMOL back them up. Just see Walton disagreeing on air, but changing his mind minutes later. I'm 100% convinced he had a call from PGMOL telling him to correct himself.

I don't think it's match rigging, or a conspiracy against the Villa, I just think PGMOL is an old boy's club who look after their own no matter how shit they are. There are very few cases where you can say "that's definitely wrong" with no wriggle room, and boy,  do PGMOL use the wiggle room. 

I think it is match rigging.

The 'vague' statements are peppered around for exactly this reason.

If it were the opposite way around, ollies watkins would have been called offside. 

[hippo]

1 minute ago, richp999 said:

fulham have just scored, lets see how VAR turn this game round for Man U

London club in relegation trouble. Remember the stamp in the PO final.

[ozvillafan]

The "rule" is that their was a second phase when Mings chests the ball.... even though the ball didn't even hit the ground by the time the offside player challenged.

I tried to think of a counter to this and I didn't have to think too hard. Anyone remember Wesley's goal being ruled out last season when his ankle was "offside" in the play before an opposition player touched it?

Consistency when it suits, it seems.

[regular_john]

Moss has joined Kevin Friend on my list of referees I'd like to see squished by a train. **** him, the corrupt fat ****.

 

Two games in a row, we've been conned by shit officiating. What is the point in even playing when the people who enforce the rules are so incompetent and/or bent?

[Zhan_Zhuang]

6 minutes ago, kiltorken said:

John Moss can be a crap as he likes for offsides, we now have a system to correct these mistakes. 

I'm perplexed why var didn't reverse it, was there a breakdown in communication? 

No they checked it and deemed it fair! The ex-referee said the goal shouldn't have stood.

[Tommo_b]

4 minutes ago, Danishlad said:

yes he should have cleared it

Or bring it down and play out from the back to put us on the front foot for an attack?

[villa4europe]

Just now, regular_john said:

Moss has joined Kevin Friend on my list of referees I'd like to see squished by a train. **** him, the corrupt fat ****.

 

Two games in a row, we've been conned by shit officiating. What is the point in even playing when the people who enforce the rules are so incompetent and/or bent?

He have the penalty to utd last year when Fernandes stood on konsa

He was already on my list 

[Okonokos]

5 minutes ago, Danishlad said:

yes he should have cleared it

Why? He had no reason to? An offside player is not allowed to tackle you.

[alreadyexists]

1 minute ago, villa4europe said:

He have the penalty to utd last year when Fernandes stood on konsa

He was already on my list 

Fernandes is on my list. The cheat.

[KenjiOgiwara]

@TheAuthority
seems you were the one that didn’t know the rules eh? Pretty much clarified now that it wasn't offside. There you go.

[hippo]

1 minute ago, Zhan_Zhuang said:

No they checked it and deemed it fair! The ex-referee said the goal shouldn't have stood.

The most damming thing. Was that BT sport said the PL had been in touch - and then Peter Walton said the goal was good. 

He's a qualified ref isn't he ? - either the rules changed or PW didn't know them. As a pundit ref I thought he would.

[Talldarkandransome]

1 minute ago, Okonokos said:

Why? He had no reason to? An offside player is not allowed to tackle you.

Unless they are wearing blue or red

[TRO]

29 minutes ago, Genie said:

Mings has been mr casual for months. He needs a short spell out of the 11 to have a think.

He played well until that brain fart, where he thinks he has the touch and ball control of John Terry.

[Lord Willard]

18 minutes ago, est1874 said:

What's the point?

I mean that genuinely. What is the point?

You think we should just accept it and move on? 

[BleedClaretAndBlue]

Funny how these ludicrous decisions always seem to be against Aston Villa isnt it? Im not going mad but we have had the full array of mind blowing obvious decisions go against us. Every time. Never for us; always against us. 

Any other ref in any other game blows for offside the second the ball is in the air. Any other player coming back that far offside doesnt even attempt to challenge for the ball. To get away with it and it leads directly to a goal is the biggest farce you’ll see.