LondonLax Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: If you want to word it like that, that's your choice. Not what I said though. Maybe we are just talking about semantics but I don't really see how offering a player a big pay rise to leave their club, behind their current clubs back, could not be considered 'tapping up' a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eholm Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Let’s relax a bit here - it’s called negotiating. They NEED to sell him especially with Milik incoming so we try our luck with a low ball offer. It gets rejected unsurprisingly but defo worth the punt. We will now come back with a counter offer(s) until we find a compromise probably around €12-15M. We have moaned for years about how we overpay for players but we now have savvy and successful businessmen in charge so let’s leave them to their negotiating . I’m very confident that he will be a Villa player soon. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 We would have agreed terms with his agency who would have been in touch with the club . The club would have given a nod in principle and then negotiations begin. Hence why the fishy one was widely reported to have agreed personal terms but then fees etc were not. Sanson has most likely been informed and possibly agreed terms but now the transfer fee and possible agent fees etc are being discussed. It's the easiest way to get deals done after the la Liga way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted January 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, eholm said: Let’s relax a bit here - it’s called negotiating. They NEED to sell him especially with Milik incoming so we try our luck with a low ball offer. It gets rejected unsurprisingly but defo worth the punt. We will now come back with a counter offer(s) until we find a compromise probably around €12-15M. We have moaned for years about how we overpay for players but we now have savvy and successful businessmen in charge so let’s leave them to their negotiating . I’m very confident that he will be a Villa player soon. Don’t cry over spilled Milik 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Maybe we are just talking about semantics but I don't really see how offering a player a big pay rise to leave their club, behind their current clubs back, could not be considered 'tapping up' a player It might be but it's been going on for years and not really a suprise to many. Martin O'Neill arrived the flat of Neil Lennon (then Leicester City) and writing down on a Pizza box what he would earn if he leaves Leicester and signs for Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted January 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sulberto21 said: French football is in dire straits financially. I actually prefer the Spanish system where you go directly to la Liga pay the money (release clause) and be done with it. After agreeing with the player too. You only do that if you dont mind paying the release clause built into their contracts. Most will choose to negotiate with the clubs. Its looking like we are trying to bargain down the price here, so it wouldnt matter if we were dealing with a Spanish or any other countries club. Edited January 21, 2021 by Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted January 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2021 Trust the process. We have people who know exactly what they are doing in their positions. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Nigel said: You only do that if you dont mind paying the release clause built into their contracts. Most will choose to negotiate with the clubs. Its looking like we are trying to bargain down the price here, so it wouldnt matter if we were dealing with a Spanish or any other countries club. Obviously depends on the release clause. I'm thinking of the Partey to Arsenal situation in the first window this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Now reporting that the milik deal is imminent The marseille guy on the villa podcast yesterday said that they need our money to pay for that deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Now reporting that the milik deal is imminent The marseille guy on the villa podcast yesterday said that they need our money to pay for that deal Apparently the Milik deal is a loan with obligation to buy, so maybe they got around needing the money immediately from the Sanson saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted January 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2021 .OM are demanding more for their player, a player we clearly want. However, with supposed incoming transfers and a Covid-fuelled hit to their income they are not in a strong bargaining position. The question is: Who's need is the greater? Villa's need for cover in midfield? Or OM's need for an income boost? Each will have their price. It remains to be seen if we can make a deal or if this one goes - for want of a better term - "fish over tits" like a certain transfer about 6 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I trust our board to do the right deal for us. OM are also well within their rights to demand what ever price they want 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: I trust our board to do the right deal for us. OM are also well within their rights to demand what ever price they want Totally correct. This is the key point in any transfer. A player is always worth what the selling club say he is. I find it hilarious when people don't get this. If we think it's an acceptable price then great, let's get him in. If not, then we'll look elsewhere. Our people know what they're doing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Okonokos said: Totally correct. This is the key point in any transfer. A player is always worth what the selling club say he is. I find it hilarious when people don't get this. If we think it's an acceptable price then great, let's get him in. If not, then we'll look elsewhere. Our people know what they're doing. It always amazes me because the same people scoff at the idea we'd sell Jack for anything less than a billion. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Okonokos said: Totally correct. This is the key point in any transfer. A player is always worth what the selling club say he is. I find it hilarious when people don't get this. If we think it's an acceptable price then great, let's get him in. If not, then we'll look elsewhere. Our people know what they're doing. This so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, DCJonah said: It always amazes me because the same people scoff at the idea we'd sell Jack for anything less than a billion. I've said countless times that Grealish in genuinely worth over £500m to us in today's market and been laughed at for it and told "He's not worth that. Nobody will pay that". Fine then, if nobody will pay it then great, he stays. It's quite simple really. Does my head in how people don't get it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 There’s a chance that the bid AVB is talking about might have been an initial offer from a week or two ago, which was derisory, and rejected etc, and that our most recent offer(s) are close to being accepted. Could be that there’s a lost in translation element to what he said, and that he was referring to a much earlier bid. Who knows. Either way, hope we get this over the line as quick as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Okonokos said: I've said countless times that Grealish in genuinely worth over £500m to us in today's market and been laughed at for it and told "He's not worth that. Nobody will pay that". Fine then, if nobody will pay it then great, he stays. It's quite simple really. Does my head in how people don't get it. I just don't get this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rich192 said: There’s a chance that the bid AVB is talking about might have been an initial offer from a week or two ago, which was derisory, and rejected etc, and that our most recent offer(s) are close to being accepted. Could be that there’s a lost in translation element to what he said, and that he was referring to a much earlier bid. Who knows. Either way, hope we get this over the line as quick as possible. Part of me feels like it's a small diversionary tactic to try to take focus away from the relatively shit job he's doing of late at Marseille. This deal is probably not too far away, and I wouldn't be surprised if AVB is pissed off at us because we've not given them what they wanted straight away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didiersix Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 From what I read today, sounds like 18 million euros is what they want...we offered 13m + 3m bonuses. Also some talk that they want him to play against Monaco (with other players out). https://www.footmercato.net/a6592936991546869877-om-ce-qui-coince-pour-morgan-sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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