Diet and Weightloss

[fightoffyour]

4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

Different things work for different people. I personally have to count calories because I just have an enormous appetite.

I've said on here before that I read about a condition where you are always hungry. Like an insatiable appetite. I genuinely think I have something like that. If you put food in front of me I could always eat it.

So even when I eat healthily, which I do most of the time, unless I control what I eat via calorie counting I will always put on weight, because I'm just never full.

 

If I have an absolutely huge meal then I will obviously get full, but it doesn't last very long. After an normal sized meal I very very rarely think "Yeah I'm full". In fact it's usually "I could eat two more of those"

The main evening meal size has also been key for me, because of something like your hunger but much less extreme I'd say.

I will almost always snack something quite small not long before going to bed because I can get a little hungry late in the evening almost irrespective of the size of that meal, and I struggle to get to sleep if I'm hungry. So then the thought process was "what's the point in having a massive meal if I'm still going to be hungry later anyway?" Better to control that portion and accept there'll be a light snack later, rather than eating too much and still snacking anyway.

Further to this, without controlling the size of a meal I'd often cook what ended up being a bit too much food, yet not enough to bother keeping the leftovers for another meal. So then you'd end up just finishing it and eating even more excess quantities. Now we just finish the whole meal, are satisfied, could probably eat more if it was there but it's not problem, especially if you take your time over the meal and drink water with it.

[snowychap]

19 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

Different things work for different people. I personally have to count calories because I just have an enormous appetite.

I've said on here before that I read about a condition where you are always hungry. Like an insatiable appetite. I genuinely think I have something like that. If you put food in front of me I could always eat it.

So even when I eat healthily, which I do most of the time, unless I control what I eat via calorie counting I will always put on weight, because I'm just never full.

 

If I have an absolutely huge meal then I will obviously get full, but it doesn't last very long. After an normal sized meal I very very rarely think "Yeah I'm full". In fact it's usually "I could eat two more of those"

This is probably the same for me - or at least it used to be (before about May/June last year so almost halfway through my weight loss).

The one thing I have really noticed is that my appetite has decreased hugely with the exception of hangover days when my appetite is like it used to be, i.e. almost insatiable. But even on those days by about 7pm it's gone back to its new normal.

 

[El Zen]

I lost nearly 20kg in 2 1/2 months in 2017. What I did may not work for everyone and it requires almost obscene dedication, discipline and sacrifice, but I found it wasn’t as hard as it sounds.

Basically, @KenjiOgiwara and @Stevo985 are right. It’s all about what, and how much, you eat. Count your cals, weigh your food, limit your portions. Don’t waste any calories on drink, only have water and zero cal pop. Fint out how few cals per day you can do and still function. I was down to about 1500/day, about half of which was dinner. The first two weeks were hard. Not too bad after that. 

Maximise your cals deficit by going for long walks or jogs. I averaged about 7k/day in my weight loss period. As long as you don’t push performance, it won’t cause you to over eat. At most, I could cut over 2000 kcals/day. 
 

Don’t be afraid to lose weight fast. It’s all about discipline and adjustment. I lost over 2kg/week for 9 weeks and they never came back, not in the shape of fat anyway. I reshaped my entire approach to food and nutrition. I reinvented my body, if you’ll pardon my douchiness. I went from being a slightly overweight foodie who kind of had an «I’ll eat what I want» identity, to being someone who is in good shape and takes pride in food discipline and working out. It becomes a lifestyle, and I love it. All it takes is (really) hard work and dedication 

Edited January 11, 2021 by Michelsen

[Demitri_C]

I think with me boredom makes me eat. When im out i dont feel j meed food but when i am at home (my front room is right by the kitchen) i tend to just eat for sake of it

Since working from home i have found i seem ro be more hungrier.

Boredom and eating alot is linked i believe.

[Seat68]

What was difficult for me is my office is the dining room table, behind me is the door to the kitchen and since march I was always getting up after a call or after a small piece of work and heading to the fridge. Currently that’s been replaced by coffee. 

[Demitri_C]

8 minutes ago, Seat68 said:

What was difficult for me is my office is the dining room table, behind me is the door to the kitchen and since march I was always getting up after a call or after a small piece of work and heading to the fridge. Currently that’s been replaced by coffee. 

Thats the same challenge i have. No garden either so can even do a skip or light jog

[KenjiOgiwara]

One thing that's a neat trick calorie wise is to simply cut your dinners in two. Wait 20 min and in my experience you feel adequately full.

Those 300-400 cals make a big difference over time.

 

[mottaloo]

48 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

I think with me boredom makes me eat. When im out i dont feel j meed food but when i am at home (my front room is right by the kitchen) i tend to just eat for sake of it

Since working from home i have found i seem ro be more hungrier.

Boredom and eating alot is linked i believe.

This is me, totally. Eating whilst WFH is simply something to do to relieve my boredom especially on a night shift. 

@Stevo985 mentioned calorie counter apps and i use(d) myfitnesspal. It is a sobering feeling to see what I've eaten written down infront of me, never mind their calorific value.

[Rodders]

my attempt at losing weight this time, seems more positive for a couple of reasons - firstly - we're actually counting calories, rather than just trying to eye-ball smaller size portions and a vague sense of reduction. Secondly, I'm doing it with my partner, which definitely helps. 

And so far in the past 7 or 8 days we've found new recipes each day targeting lower calorie in take and that diversity of food is exciting, and fun. I've always been aware I'm an utter sucker for snacks, bread and carbs - I my lifetime habit involves god knows how much bread a day through laziness - toast, lunchtime sandwich etc every day. Or hot cross buns as my breakfast option - every day, or sugary cereals etc. Breaking that habit, is something I've wanted to do for a while, so forcing ourselves to be creative with other options, be it fruit and yoghurt or porridge has so far felt nice. 

Keeping active so as not to be bored is a challenge in lockdown though! My provisional substitute is going to be drinking lots of herbal teas!

I definitely think going hard in the early stages is better, whilst motivation is naturally higher. I know full well that at some point I assume I'm going to want to dive face first into a massive fish and chip take away or whatever it is, and I very much looking forward to that, but I know I'll enjoy it more if I've shifted the lard I want to first. 

[StefanAVFC]

I had my battles. I'm tall (6'3/190cm) so I always held weight a weird way. I guess my tipping point was when I was about 21, got injured so couldn't play anything for 3 months and I piled it on.

When I broke up with my ex, I really focused myself. Weirdly calorie counting never worked for me. I was just eating less and really hitting exercise hard. Football 4 times a week and properly running myself into the ground. 

I went from 15 and a half stone to 12 and a half. Now I'm back at 13 stone 4 ish, and not really interested in weight loss, but finally toning up, so I'm doing a daily workout plan and still kinda eating what I want.

[Xann]

That picture of the footballer, his lady and the giraffes makes me feel like a human potato.

[blandy]

2 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said:

Can you get me Ian Wright's autograph ?

[Mark Albrighton]

7 minutes ago, blandy said:

Can you get me Ian Wright's autograph ?

[StefanAVFC]

22 minutes ago, blandy said:

Can you get me Ian Wright's autograph ?

More like Danny Mills!

 

[Follyfoot]

3 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said:

Agree with most of the above. Last year I dropped around 2 stone, the pubs being closed was a huge factor in that. I’ve put about 4 or 5 lbs of that back on over Christmas, ideally I’d like to lose another half a stone, maybe a touch more.

Exercise is great but for me it’s watching what I eat. Actually looking at the traffic code system is decent start, anything that has red, can remain unopened. And look for alternatives, veggie sausages aren’t the healthiest food, but they’re better than real meat sausages and they taste fine. It all adds up.

Taking pictures is a good idea. I didn’t as I wasn’t keen on photos of me. I’m slimmer now, but I still feel a bit flabby, you sort of get used to the “new you” and forget what you used to be like. There’s a before and after below, about a year apart, summer 2019 to summer 2020, but I started properly in January 2020 so not completely accurate, but you get a sense. The before picture while shit, is one I must have felt looked ok, as there aren’t many others of me at the time (I’m doing a few things there to reduce the size, head slightly held back to avoid a double chin for example). The shit shirt I’m wearing in 2019 doesn’t help matters, I know. 

Oh and this is a bit drastic, but it helps. When you reach your goal, buy an expensive bit of clothing, that’s a good enough incentive to remain that size. That’s kept me in line anyway.

Best of luck to all going for it.

 

do you only socialise with bald or balding males? well done on the weight

Edited January 11, 2021 by Follyfoot

[Mark Albrighton]

50 minutes ago, Follyfoot said:

do you only socialise with bald or balding males? well done on the weight

Ha well the mate next to me there actually has more or less a full head of hair, but has it really short on the sides and the light is making it look shorter. Full disclosure, the full uncropped photo has 4 baldies and 3 who still use a comb, so there’s some truth to your post.

1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said:

More like Danny Mills!

Well, Danny Mills is a step or two above Danny Murphy I guess from an aesthetic point of view, but we’re still way too entrenched in comparisons with mediocre football pundits for my liking.

[villa4europe]

I didn't count calories, started to using my fitness pal or whatever it's called but got bored of it

You should have a general idea of what's good and what's bad, personally I don't think it's that hard, crisps was a big no no for me, went over a year with no crisps, the zero coke is obvious, don't go to fruit juices thinking they're healthy because they're not usually not

My easiest diet was the keto diet, I love meat, so for 2 months I had cooked chicken slices for lunch with some hot sauce, they were 2 for £3.50 in Morrisons, then on the night I'd eat one or two chicken breasts in some sort of spice with usually fried spinach or tomatoes or both, if I wanted a change I did scrambled eggs, that was topped up with protein shakes and green tea, it wasn't as boring as it sounds (and I don't eat breakfast) change the meat or change the sauce, get a large collection of spices and some basic cooking knowledge but the side from the meat do not touch pasta, rice, potato or bread, find veg that you like instead, again personally I found that quite easy

The problem is its crazy expensive 

Pair that with exercise, I played football 2 or 3 times a week, taekwondo once a week and then cross fit gym at 6am in a group which was 20 mins warm up, 20 mins weights, then a WOD, as I said in the other thread if you don't like work outs or gyms then the easiest IMO is a tabata, 20 seconds on, 10 seconds off, 8 rounds so 4 mins in total, mix up the exercise, it can be jumping Jack's, push ups, sit ups, mountain climbers whatever, just go as hard as you can and get yourself sweaty and losing your breath, also increase your walking which is easy exercise 

I went from 14st to 12st in 2 months and then balanced it out to something a bit more sensible, knocked the gym on the head when I moved but still play football, eat a lot more bread cos that's unfortunately what Germany is but the tipping of my exercise to pure cardio has seen me lose another half a stone in the last year but now the belly has got slightly bigger and the muscle I had put on has completely gone 

Also said in the other thread that if you are someone who can't help but look at the scales every day then take hot boths, really hot sauna like baths, you will sweat out water weight in them, it's a false position but it'll give you a small weight loss buzz, my understanding is that it takes around 2 weeks if not more of consistent exercise and dieting before you will see any kind of major decrease so it might not feel worthwhile when you start, I found that when it does start to drop it keeps going so don't stop! 

[Risso]

5 hours ago, AVFC_Hitz said:

To start with strictness is absolutely necessary. You have to let your body adjust completely. Normal keto would be around 50g of carbs a day and then there is strict keto which is closer to 25g a day. Your body will take around a week to get into ketosis to begin with, so you will lose the effectiveness with too many cheat days early on. 

I'm another keto devotee. Started it last year when weighing just shy of 18 stone (I'm 6'1"). Got down to 13.5 stone, and a 32" waist. On top of that I do run 2-3 times a week, and usually play 5 aside football once a week (obviously not at the moment). Keto was brilliant for me. Never felt hungry, and the weight came off and stayed off. I did have two weeks off it in December but back on it now. 14" is a nice weight for me, and it's easy to maintain. For the running, I started with Couch to 5K and took it from there. Can do 5K is about 25 mins these days.  Could probably go a bit quicker fitness wise, but my back and knees hurt if I push it.

[Risso]

Of the two players to be compared to, Mills and Murphy would pis me off the most!  Mods! 

[Risso]

4 hours ago, Demitri_C said:

I think with me boredom makes me eat. When im out i dont feel j meed food but when i am at home (my front room is right by the kitchen) i tend to just eat for sake of it

Since working from home i have found i seem ro be more hungrier.

Boredom and eating alot is linked i believe.

Keto might work for you Dem.  A lot of cravings come down to the fact that manufacturers have got us addicted to quick release carbs in food, especially in added sugar. You eat something full of carbs, you get an insulin spike and your body likes it. A little while later your body craves more of the same. You don't get any of that on the keto diet. Once you get past the first few days, which can be hard I won't lie, it really is a piece of piss, which hopefully  @AVFC_Hitz will back me up on.